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Understanding The Linear Space-Time and its Limitations


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Table of Contents                                                                                                

  • Introduction
  • Concepts – Part 1 of 2: Basics
    • Space
    • Location
    • Direction
    • Energy
    • Goal
    • Time
  • Concepts – Part 2 of 2: Understanding The Linear Space-Time
    • Linear Space-Time
    • Limitations of Linear Space-Time
    • Prediction
    • Time Travel
  • Conclusion


Introduction

This is about understanding the linear space-time worldview or paradigm and why it is limited. It is partial correct, but not a complete one at that.

We will start off with basics that make up the linear space-time concept then point out its limitations.


Concept - Part 1 of 2: Basics


Space

Definition: The space throughout the spacetime in this universe, is conceptually a spatial and “empty container” that “holds”/”indicate” a location that occupy it.

Example: A male human being as location himself occupying a spatial location in space area at his home.


Location

Definition: A location is something with a position in space, usually with a classification or identification (eg. Being known).

Example: Position A (human being). Position B (home). Position C (work).


Direction

Definition: Direction is something that transforms its position to another one, usually in a forwarding manner.

Example: A human being drove (transformed) from his home (eg. Position A) to work (eg. Position B).


Energy

Definition: A source of available and useable something for a transformative action, usually for transforming a position to another one in either physical or conceptual sense.

Example: A human being driving (transforming) a car with gas or electrical battery (energy) from his home (position A) to work (position B).


Goal

Definition: A potential result, usually affixed with a meaning that can dicate an action of transforming a position to another one.

Example: A human being driving his car to work (position B) from home (position A), with a goal of contributing and earning something (goal).


Relation

Definition: A comparable of two or more physical or conceptual objects, that are connected to each other in a way.

Example: Human being going from his home event (eg. position A) to work event (eg. position B). Relatable frames of event (eg. Frame A and Frame B).


Linear

Definition: Linear is either almost or absolutely straight line that goes forward from a position (eg. A) to another position (eg. B), or a logical sequence of steps between position a and b in any direction.

Example: A human being went to work (position B) from his home (position A), both positions connected as beginning and end or linear travel.


Time

Definition: The time is a tool and conceptual measurement of a passage between events and human experience.

Example: Human being arrived at his home from his work and looked at his wrist watch with a timeclock, to check and / or measure his experience of the day.


Concept Part 2 of 2: Understanding The Linear Space-Time


Linear Space-Time

Definition: A sequential continuation of a meaningful event to another one and so on, in a fixed forwarding manner. Usually with a beginning and end in either physical or conceptual sense.

Example: Position A (home – event 1) to position B (work – event 2).

The linear space-time is an event going from its prior event to a next another one. It is usually marked as a frame on mind of human being in a logical step-by-step, for making a correlation and reference.

The perception of linear space-time is result of “non-linear” thinking by mind of human. The reason is for that is to turn something into a defined, fixed, or static idea or thing in order to make a “necessary” correlation for a re-visit or reference. By having a linear space-time in either physical (eg. Time clock device) or conceptual sense; a linear history, goal, and / or meaning is created and preserved, usually because of an emphasis of importance or value is placed upon on it.


Limitations of Linear Space-Time

Static Limitation 1: The linear space-time concept being applied in almost everywhere, yields static ideas or materials whereas the Nature yields a real-time universe.

Inheritance Limitation 2: The static nature of linear space-time concept, it inherently creates a number of frames in an animation or live real-time scene or event for correlation and reference. The frames require usage of extra energy to update it and can potentially take up extra space.

Precision Limitation 3: The frame as byproduct of linear space-time concept, it can create a lag, delay, or a gap between numbers of it; that may pose a problem because it don’t seem to paint a precise picture of the Nature.


Prediction

While prediction is for attempting to make a projection of a future idea of something, we have to remember it is based on the linear space-time concept.

Example: A to B, a beginning and end whereas the Nature or real world is real-time where anything can change it. Thus the prediction is only a relative approximate.


Time Travel

The time travel seems to be possible in a fiction work such as films, novels, and other media forms because of the linear space-time worldview and an ability to hack it.

The time travel is impossible. We cannot go forward or backward in time, because time is a linear concept to indicate or measure the passage between events and experience; nothing more or less wheras the Nature is “real-time” or live universe.


Conclusion                                                                                                             

Basically the linear space-time is a partial snapped picture of the Nature, but not a whole of it.

The linear space-time concept is a fixed one at that, sometimes it is good for framing something (eg. An idea) that holds true or having a connection of sort for a human being’s subjective experience and re-visit. Usually because of an importance or value place upon on it.

The linear space-time concept is visibly presented in almost everywhere apart from the Nature. Unfortunately, it is limited and paints a partial worldview of the world or universe. The static limitation chain-created a few limitations that likely posed some problems, mainly because these are in contrast with the natural real-time that is characteristic of the Nature.

How to make a real-time measurement to obtain an accurate reading or information about the Nature? I do not know except maybe it could be the rate of using energy. An example: A cat lived up to eighteen years old by human standard years (linear space-time worldview), but if we could measure the energy rate by cat before it died; we might find out whether if it actually lived a long or short “time”.

By removing the time away from the measurement equation, we could then measure it on something by just the “real-time” energy rate to obtain a more accurate information about life experienced by it. The resulting information itself might be still linear but still, we have to remember that it along with the linear space-time is still limited.

With being said about the limitations of linear space-time concept, we need to start looking into some potential and alternative solutions to the linear paradigm of space-time in order to be more correct with the Nature or universe.

 

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This model of time is one of many. It is used in simple, Newtonian physics. It may correspond to some people's conception of time, but not all.

Are you aware of other models of time? Why have you just described this one which is, as you say, limited and incomplete?

1 hour ago, tylers100 said:

The time travel is impossible. We cannot go forward or backward in time, because time is a linear concept to indicate or measure the passage between events and experience

This is an example of the fallacy of begging the question:

A: Time travel must be impossible 

B: Why is it impossible?

A: Because we cannot go forward or backward in time

B: Why can't we go backward and forward in time 

A: Because because time is a linear concept (in other words, because time travel is impossible)

But then you say: "The linear space-time concept is visibly presented in almost everywhere apart from the Nature. Unfortunately, it is limited and paints a partial worldview of the world or universe."

So time is not, according to you, just a linear concept. Does this mean that time travel might be possible after all?

And, of course, in the "linear time model" we continuously go forward in time.

1 hour ago, tylers100 said:

How to make a real-time measurement to obtain an accurate reading or information about the Nature? I do not know except maybe it could be the rate of using energy. An example: A cat lived up to eighteen years old by human standard years (linear space-time worldview), but if we could measure the energy rate by cat before it died; we might find out whether if it actually lived a long or short “time”.

By removing the time away from the measurement equation, we could then measure it on something by just the “real-time” energy rate to obtain a more accurate information about life experienced by it. The resulting information itself might be still linear but still, we have to remember that it along with the linear space-time is still limited.

An interesting idea. But there are all sorts of problems with this. Energy (like length and time) is an observer dependent value. Also the rate of energy use of a cat will depend on many factors such its level of activity or the environment. 

But maybe you should think about the related concept of entropy. That is considered by some to be the reason why we percieve time to be linear and to only go in one direction.

1 hour ago, tylers100 said:

With being said about the limitations of linear space-time concept, we need to start looking into some potential and alternative solutions to the linear paradigm of space-time in order to be more correct with the Nature or universe.

A lot of modern physics does not use this simplistic model though.

Time can be treated as another coordinate, like the spacial ones, to locate events. For example, of you want to meet somebody you need to specify four co-ordinates (xy,z,t) such as latitude, longitude, altitude and date & time.

Time can be observer dependent. It can vary depending on gravitational potential.

In some areas of physics, time reversal symmetry is important. 

 

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2 hours ago, tylers100 said:

An example: A cat lived up to eighteen years old by human standard years (linear space-time worldview), but if we could measure the energy rate by cat before it died; we might find out whether if it actually lived a long or short “time”.

By removing the time away from the measurement equation, we could then measure it on something by just the “real-time” energy rate to obtain a more accurate information about life experienced by it.

I do not get what you mean here. By removing time you have effectively removed the rate of change, there is no change to be measured. I assume that by "measurement" you mean something from physics even if topic is in philosophy section. 

Also not that in the (well supported) theory of relativity time and space is not absolute. As @Strange said it is observer dependent. You could measure the cat to have a longer or shorter life depending on frame of reference.

 

Personal note: Special Relativity states that two observers in relative movement does not necessarily agree about the order of two events. Hence I do not, from a philosophical point of view, see time, space or "space-time" as "linear". 

 

 

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