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What is justice?

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5 minutes ago, MigL said:

Other than the Judicial System's definition of 'justice', which is an agreed upon definition by society, any other definition is purely subjective.

Isn't a judge, by definition, a dispassionate arbiter?

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Tell it to black people who get harder sentencing than whites for similar crimes.

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1 hour ago, dimreepr said:

Unfortunately there are all too often less than dispassionate people involved in the resolution of guilt...

Did you miss this?

4 minutes ago, MigL said:

Tell it to black people who get harder sentencing than whites for similar crimes.

Now your making my point for me, did you read the OP?

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And I'm not the one telling other people what ( subjective ) justice is.

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22 minutes ago, MigL said:

If your definition disagrees with that agreed upon by society,

It doesn't, at least not in the/a constitution.

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you should attempt to explain why yours is the BETTER definition

It's a definition that attempts to define the conscept of rehabilitation, perhpaps your BETTER definition is to throw away the key?

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Posted (edited)

When did I say that ?

By the way, rehabilitation is also a subjective concept.

Edited by MigL

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Just now, MigL said:

When did I say that ?

When did I say you did?

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3 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

perhpaps your BETTER definition is to throw away the key?

Just now.

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4 minutes ago, MigL said:

By the way, rehabilitation is also a subjective concept.

Until it works... ;)

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Posted (edited)

Justice is one of those concepts which has a 'common' definition which we, as a society agree upon and ( attempt to ) enforce (fairly, but often fail to ), and also an individual subjective definition.
Same with the concept of 'rehabilitation'. What you, or I, or a Parole Officer consider 'rehabilitation' are totally different.
Do I need to quote you Red's ( Morgan Freeman ) speech to the Parole Officer in The Shawshank Redemption ?

Edited by MigL

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But, by definition if it works then justice is done, the perp has learned a lesson and can safely return to our social mix, a parole officer is almost by definition designed to provide a barrier to that lesson; it's more than his job's worth.

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