Moontanman

Seriously rigney, you think these gaffs are the equivalent of believing the Earth is 6000 years old, dinosaurs and humans lived together and dragons are real? Biden might be seriously inept or even a dumb ass but this is not the same as believing in dragons. What's next, leaving out milk for fairies passed into law?

Rigney if he was the only one you would have a point but the Republican party is currently fielding many people like this, in fact not believing in YEC is enough to prevent you from being elected as a republican...

This, bold part, pretty much says it all for me, neither party is really independent of the monetary influence of corporations, banks and other groups with the money to buy our legislators. I think the right is in an unholy alliance with religion as well, I think both sides entered into the relationship thinking they were going to control the other but religion has a huge influence from it's fringes that is impossible to deal with rationally. The power block that is formed by religion and money has an influence that is hard to escape. Religion to a great extent is driven by it's fringes, even though the majority of religious people privately disagree with the agenda religious fringes are pushing opposing them gets you a label that is difficult to deal with. Eventually much like the civil rights issues that we were forced to deal with in the 60's, when white people who supported the rights of black people got you labeled as somehow betraying your own race, people are going to have to decide whether or not the religious fringe can continue to dictate to the rest of us by insinuations of betrayal of God. This type of influence is quite powerful, in private most white people would admit that the racism of the time was wrong but defying it took great courage but eventually enough white people stood up to be counted and the result was the repeal of both laws and attitudes that really defiled us all. Now the religious fringes are asserting things that most of us recognize as wrong in a very basic way but standing up to these fringes will be difficult. The assertion of if you are do not believe without question then you cannot be a Christian is very powerful even though you know it's not correct. Only by the intimidation of the rational religious people can people like Allen Quist gain power, only by convincing a large part of the population they have to believe in crazy shit can people like Allen Quist or Michele Bachman gain influence. Fear mongering is their bread and butter, they have to instill unreasonable fear into people, this fear is what fundamentalist religions use to control people in the light of reason their stance falls apart like snowflakes in the summer sun...

Do you really think I am sitting here all red faced over what you are saying??? hehehe, that's funny Get your self a bucket of sand and a large hammer, pound the sand thoroughly for 4 hours, see what you get...

Show me some progressives who are batshit crazy and being promoted as the best the party has and I'll be all over them. Both parties have people who are crazy but I see no progressives being supported despite being batshit crazy... Why should i chill out? You certainly are not chilling out, you consistently post stuff praising your party and it's members, usually based on nonsense, you want me to stop? go pound sand...

No rigney you are not in Minnesota, and he is not the only Republican that is batshit crazy and accepted by the party as the best they have. If this jackass wins he will go to Washington and vote based his batshit crazy world view. He is not alone rigney, on a local level his spiritual brothers are in office every where looking to climb up, by voting a straight ticket you will be voting for nutters like this. As for Biden better him than someone like Allen Quist...

Well then if you were in Minnesota you would be voting for the guy who believes in dragons... This guy is not some lone nutter, he has already won the republican primary, did you not watch the video?

So you think that Biden's remark about chains is batshit crazy but belief in dragons is not? Or do you think they are equally crazy? Anyone who would vote for someone who thinks dragons are real and dinosaurs existed up until a few hundred years ago is either willfully ignorant or stupid... no wait they are the same thing. The "chains" remark is subject to opinion, dragons are real is just stupid... Rigney, I've given it some thought, in this thread you have shown your true colors.. you are a right wing nut... you are not middle of the road in any respect. If a progressive said something as stupid as this guy I'd be all over him like white on rice but all you do is try to defend him by misdirection. This guy is crazy (or a liar trying to manipulate ignorant people), if you had actually paid attention to the video instead of blaming the man who was reporting it because you don't like him you might have seen the batshit crazy. There is simply no way to defend this guy, if he was a progressive i would denounce him immediately, the idea that if you can show someone else from the other side is crazy as well doesn't make him any less crazy. But your example of crazy is not even close to the same thing. Biden might say something you disagree with but is what he said really equal to saying that dragons are real? Seriously rigney, do you want to back away from trying to excuse this guy or do you want to go with batshit crazy simply because he's not a progressive? Is not being a progressive really so important that you will excuse anything the conservatives say?

Ok, what has Biden said that was completely batshit crazy?

Atypical? he is running for office, he is the man who will run against the democrats to serve in Washington, he is not some distant nutter making noise. Are you saying that this guy is not the best the republicans can come up with for this election?

Sure, which one?

It's bad enough the Republicans are supporting Creationists but this guy is even further out there, he believes in Dragons!

Welcome 12 Monkeys...

Some one wrote a song about me!!!! The Moontanman rap

A duck walks into a bar and asks, "Got any grapes?" The bartender, confused, tells the duck that no, his bar doesn't serve grapes. The duck thanks him and leaves. The next day, the duck returns and says, "Got any grapes?" Again, the bartender tells him that, no, the bar does not serve grapes, has never served grapes, a...nd, furthermore, will never serve grapes. The duck, a little ruffled, thanks him and leaves. The next day, the duck returns, but before he can say anything, the bartender begins to yell: ''Listen, duck! This is a bar! We do not serve grapes! If you ever ask for grapes again, I will nail your stupid duck beak to the bar!'' The duck is silent for a moment, and then asks, ''Got any nails?'' Confused, the bartenders says no. ''Good!'' says the duck. ''Got any grapes?''

How about you read the rules you agreed to when you joined....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjKF7aQthcQ

The box with a vinyl record on it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIDaBF8LILk

In the back ground of this music video is an odd musical instrument, what is the name of it? Could that have ever been cutting edge? great video though...

And now for something completely different.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYyxcn7oerQ

I like this version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jadvt7CbH1o Sweet dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJE_Sc1Wags

The Monster by Steppenwolf, amazing how 40 years later the song still resonates with reality...