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My guess is until people forget and/or get distracted by the other 10000 screw ups and unlawful actions.

They also have started to arrest grad students. https://apnews.com/article/tufts-student-detained-massachusetts-immigration-6c3978da98a8d0f39ab311e092ffd892?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share

Again, I will posit that we are dealing with malignant motivations/actions paired with incompetence. The administration is full of bad actors who are trying to exploit others. But they are also terrible at their job and in hiding things. Well, there are apparently some Canadians (well below 20%) who look at that and want to join. Mostly the demographic you probably expect most to do so.

It is one of the more consistent aspects- they ultimately did it to protect their trade routes and there might be additional motivations prompting them to do it. But thinking that the Europeans should pay is basically the same idea as building a wall and have Mexico pay it. I.e., try to externalize cost and bully folks into doing it, if you can.

Just to add to the point, Spiegel just reported that mobile phone numbers, email addresses and some passwords have been found freely accessible on the internet.

With this administration I would like to introduce Charon's Y. "Why not both?"

Yes exactly, that was in response to an earlier comment mentioning that Pseudomonas was a soil bacterium and making a quip regarding soil recall. As you know, microbial contamination of non-food is a challenge (which is why there are preservatives in those products to begin with). If you can have Pseudomonas, there is no reason to believe that you are safe from Bukholderia or other harmful bacteria. Most known issues happen in mostly controlled (e.g., hospital) settings, but it is not well known how much contaminated products could contribute to household outbreaks. If sufficiently contaminated, they can survive in your clothes, and create biofilms in your washer and water lines.

That was the point I was addressing, a proportion didn't believe it happened, a more sizeable proportion didn't consider it a big thing and a quite a sizeable proportion, including geniuses like Musk and Trump have propagated to their followers that it would vanish on its own and nothing had to be done. This is in direct contradiction on your statement (assuming the statement meant that folks should work against it, not that it was a bad thing to work against it). In a public health emergency, having more than say 30% undermine efforts meant that it would spread and kill people, which it did. Now a lot of folks are using the narrative that it only killed old folks and that therefore we should have let it run wild. Which is both callous as well as short-sighted. Note that RFK is making the same argument now for avian influenza. If that is what you consider to be an united response, the aliens would really just to need to pay Meta to take over the world.

Nope, I haven't seen anything that would suggest that it was deliberate. I think it is an error to assume 4d chess if it can be explained by idiocy. We had plenty of examples during the first administraiton. Within the thread there was a discussion that they thought that Europe would be more dependent on the Suez canal than the US. So they were worried that it would look that they would be bailing out Europeans. As they are currently trying to exert pressure on them and are crafting an "Europeans are worthless moochers so that is why we need to have a trade war with them" message, it could undermine it.

Oh you were referring to just Claudius' family, that could be the case, as in contrast to his other male relatives he was not involved in public office (or rather, excluded from it). I am not sure whether it is fair to state that he acted up on it. He also wrote history books, which according to wikipedia might have caused some anger, too. But I think that you are in fact overthinking the MAGA movement. Part of it is planned for sure, there have a book on it. But the execution is not some hidden masterstroke. It is done with incompetence and relies on the fact that people have fractured realities. Even 20 years ago it wouldn't have worked because the public outrage would have been overwhelming. It is both: planned and incompetent.

Wasn't Nero the last known male descendant? I am not particularly sure whether that explanation is necessary. Child death was high, maybe half of all children reached adulthood. And murdering was quite frequent in the Imperial lineage.

A survey in the UK by KCL foud about a quarter of folks that COVID19 was a hoax, about a third think it was a conspiracy of sorts. https://www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/conspiracy-belief-among-the-uk-public.pdf Suveys in 2020 in the US showed around 15% going up 20% depending on time (Fox and Trump effect, before he got sick) but they had slightly different questions. At the low end there were 10% with 20% being not sure. I don't think there are good disaggregated data sets as most somewhat conflate various conspiracy theories. However, relevant to the claim that there was universal agreement on COVID-19, almost immediately there was a splintering of public opinion with values up to 30% mistrusting public health officials. The effects were associated higher death rates and lower vaccination rates. In Europe vaccination rates varied significantly with some areas with over 96% (e.g., Ireland, Portugal), 80-85-ish (Germany, Austria) and to very low rates in parts of Eastern Europe (Poland, 66%, Bulgaria 35%). The USA as a whole is around 70%, for comparison. During an active pandemic, that is plenty to pose a serious public health risk, not to mention the much more sizeable portion of folks downplaying the risk. Even if only 10% are fully denying an ongoing reality can have immediate impact on public health. Imagine the same number of folks denying that cars can injure ppl on the road. Also, there were massive protests against vaccinations and even masking (if charitable, one could make an argument regarding lockdowns). The response was far from universal and flummoxed public health. Early on folks did think that it would be a time where folks would pull together. And we were quite wrong. Folks clearly did not universally agree on working against the virus. And it turns out, there is a sizeable pro-virus faction.

It is also a soil bacterium.

I read in another report that Ratcliffe said that the operative was not covert (but who knows whether that is true). I am also wondering, since they declared that nothing sensitive was discussed, is the journalist now free to publish the whole conversation?

Interesting question. Was Dr. Phil in the chat?

Another thing that I read is that Signal is not allowed to be run on government issued safe communication devices, suggesting that the communication happened with unsecured devices. From the Atlantic article: Elsewhere in the article, they noted that military activities should have been discussed in SCIFs or approved government equipment, as you noted.

Are they allowed to?

I am confused, isn't the administration pro-virus? A jeez, are they trying to use the flooding the zone strategy for every single thing now? They keep arguing contradictory things, even in court, like in the DOGE and deportation cases (no, DOGE is not an official agency and not run by Musk, but yes it is run by Musk, and it has full authority; no we cannot disclose details on the likely illegal deportations, and we cannot even say why this is a national security risk as even it is super top secret. Also here is a music video of the deportation).

I think the fact that this is being normalized is a huge issue in itself. Rather unfortunately flooding the zone really works in the age of short - SQUIRREL!

No, dude. Being woke is against the law.

That makes a lot of sense. A key element of this administration is to minimize transparency and accountability.

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. Which makes the security breach way worse. But then on balance, perhaps not too surprising. Those folks are not much for rules. Or laws.

I did not expect the US to be run by a bunch of 12 year old bullies. Beside the point, but is anyone else surprised that the US government is not using or do not have an internal tool for communications?

That would make a lot of sense. Like vaccinating folks against, you know, measles. Or perhaps not. I don't even know anymore. USA turned into North Korea. A brain worm seems to be leading health agencies, and folks consider one of their children dying from a preventable disease worth it to not vaccinate folks. I am fairly sure something is pranking us all, but I cannot figure out who.

They would eat a mirror to own the libs.