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Ya, you need to make it work and then patent it.

"Einstein’s connection with the politics of the nuclear bomb is well known: he signed the famous letter to President Franklin Roosevelt that persuaded the United States to take the idea seriously, and he engaged in postwar efforts to prevent nuclear war...In 1933, Hitler came to power. Einstein was in America, and declared he would not return to Germany. Then, while Nazi militia raided his house and confiscated his bank account, a Berlin newspaper displayed the headline “Good News from Einstein – He’s Not Coming Back.” In the face of the Nazi threat, Einstein renounced pacifism, and eventually, fearing that German scientists would build a nuclear bomb, proposed that the United States should develop its own. But even before the first atomic bomb had been detonated, he was

publicly warning of the dangers of nuclear war and proposing international control of nuclear weaponry."

^From a brief history of time (book)

I guess it was for first strike or a deterrent measure, to prevent nuclear war. It almost worked.

*High Five*

I have it too, it use to be very very bad (VERY BAD), where even now I have problems talking or being with family, but not nearly as bad as before. It's just I had it for ...14 years without knowing it for about 10.

Your going to find that not many people understand it who don't have it. That's natural, I bet you have a hard time explaining it as well to others.

I'll be back to add more, back to work.

::Back from Work::

Where was I? Oh yeah.

Knowing me I would and did look it up myself, or you already been to a professional and got the "diagnostic".

See I'll be truthifully honest. From my own experience, I've taken every approach possible. People will say you just have to jump in there and do it. Well they don't understand that the person they see, and the person that is "you" are completely different. You know what I am talking about, you said it in your post, it's like a switch that instantly changes your mindset where your only capable of irrational, unlogical, etc, thinking. It's not just the mindset its thought behaviour and physical behaviour. For me I shake, sweat, get dizzy, mind rushes, everything. Alot of people have phobias but alot of them dont deal with them on a daily basis for that length of time. It's not only redicule it's about upsetting people you talk too, your always trying to find the perfect thing to say, but no matter what it's never perfect, even if you could say something perfect you realize its impossible to do in the time frame of a initated conversation so you become even more self conscious of your words and the way you look to them, you know your scared and you know they know, I could keep going on and on.

You can't really sum up this disorder, you can't explain it, and I think thats why it's not very well know professionally.

There are things you can do, but you have to be COMMITTED!

1)Seek professional help

2)Try the medication (if only for the first three months, at that point make up your mind if you want to keep using it, it's lets just say somewhat tough to be on)

3) Cognitive Behaviour treatment (That's the more logical answer, medication works for a bit and you just keep increasing the dose, some professionals will want to keep you on during this treatment, but make sure you express your concerns as HARD as it maybe to do so)

4)Weightlifting/Martial Arts/Runninging sports - I like weightlifting because I can do it alone with no one to bother me, but it helps alot getting rid of that whole days built up stress, and it gives you self-esteem. Not right away but, you will feel better after you see the change in strength, to me I always thought I might not beable to defend myself verbally, but I for sure as hell going to make sure I can do it physically, So I was either in Martial Arts or weight training whenever I could, and it helped knowing that.

I am still in it all, I could say I've past the highest point but I still need alot of work myself, and I haven't committed the time to do so because I need to work for school (coop) which on one had is good because it forces me to "practice", and on the other hand if I am tired I just go into an irrational bunker for the whole week.

What's worked for me is simply, force yourself to pretend. It sound silly, but its like acting. I have specific phobias as well where I have problems like; Saying peoples names (fear of saying it incorrectly, Ironically my name is Jeroen, very hard to pronounce and I dont care what people call me but anyway) so like for example "Hello, how are you 'name'?" Then may when I got that down confidentially you go to tone of voice (I am sure you are soft spoken as well). It's like working your phobia in reverse, your training your brain to subconsciously say things without thought, where as you create fear subconsciously without thought with the phobia.

I could keep going on, but if you like just PM me whenever and we can chat about it all, I don't mind, I rather do that then talk to myself like I usually do LOL.

Remember part of it is because 90% of the population doesn't have the degree of what you have, they see those little anxieties as things you just get over. Quite frankly I'd be more comfortable with a gun to my head then any social situation, because they aren't little, I mean I get those too, but it's nothing in comparsion. So don't undermind the difficulty but don't think either that because they do it so easy, you should too, there are alot of things I can do that most people can't because of what I have, it's just no one sees it because they don't dwell on that, where you, me, and the next guy do.

I have an anxiety disorder, I use the computer alot...

I am statistic.

Computers can be addictive though without those things. Funny thing is I enjoy playing games with other over the net, I guess you can be who ever you want to be on the net.

I was kind hoping for some cyrogenic reaction based system but...

No seriously cool idea, but I dont like having open water and electricity, maybe I am alittle too precautious but I'd rather spend the money.

OMG thank you....Indirectly it helped me find a song I was looking for the past 5 and bit years.

It was the Tragically Hip - Blow At High Dough

THANK YOU!

Yeah thats exactly what I've been looking for, I've never seen chimps protrayed as hunters. It would be interesting to know where the primate evolved from.

Even if you get one person its a success. Even giving people an alternative view might be enough to start a slow reaction. These people at the meeting may not change their view instantly, there will always be a struggle between ideology and science. Even if they start to research it out to disproving it, thats a gain to your goal.

Science doesn't hold all the answers where Ideology does. That's tough to ask someone who has all the answers to drop it and go back to the unknown.

Don't think of it as failure, regardless of what happens.

*Plays metal gear solid theme*

The fun stuff I could do with camo like that...

Thats weird I have the same connection.

Can you do that thing Klaynos said:

Go to the command prompt and type - ping irc.blackcobalt.net

Also check your network connection.

Control Panel > Network connections > Your connection.

Look at the send and receive while you get that problem.

I'll keep looking on the net for solutions. The best thing about this is that someone else must of had it before, therefore a good chance of finding a solution.

If not, hopeifully you didnt download or install a bunch of programs in the past 3 or 4 days and you can try a system restore.

If it gets that far and doesn't work I would call your ISP and ask whats going on, because I wouldn't know what else it could be.

::edit::

Klaynos! are you the server admin? Sorry I didn't know. Didn't mean to over step ya, I just know how frustrating this type of thing can be.

So if everything Klaynos said doesn't work I would call the ISP.

Crap I forgot, Sorry timesheets end of the week, grrr. Ok I will try and help you, do you have any virus protection programs, XP SP2, that sort of thing? Routers?

And what sites can't you access?

So does that mean some people don't have them at all? People have different noises as well, but never no nose at all.

I was wonder if that was a human development, but that because I am under the assumption that the primates were mostly herbovores.

There has to be some form of logicial descension that explains everything, I don't know why suddenly teeth sparked my interest, kind of odd.

I guess there isn't much that doesn't interest me.

Oh Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata! I still remember that from Earthworm Jim. I am not a big Beethoven fan though.

I was wondering about the canine or fangs that humans have (The teeth right before you hit the molars). Or is that just random people. Mine are slightly pointed, so naturally I was wondering if that came from ape ancestry? and how far back can we trace back our evolution, I don't see a reason for apes to have fangs, but thats just me.

I am near high magnetic fields all day at work. Nothing is wrong with me, maybe a few transparent walls but hey...

abskebabs a pimp! look at them hot chicks following him around!

If you still need help or it's not working, when I get home from work I'll get a copy of Mirc and figure out whats wrong with ya, if you need that. I've always figured out tech problems...well eventually.

While you are dreaming, why not discover cold fusion while you are at it?

I already discovered that, all we have to do is hop in my spaceship and travel back to my storage planet, Almadeup! That's where I leave all my great inventions.

**** IT! Why do I even bother.

Clint Mansell - Summer Overture

Mozart - Swan Lake

Craig Armstrong - Lissa

APC - Passive

It also says:

"As if to defy common sense, they say, the backward-moving pulse of light travels faster than light."

The only thing I have against Evolution is the organization and manner in which it is describe. It seems to imply an independant force that drives the change.

I regard it as the causality of life and survivial. Each species is specifically the way they are is because every interaction or lack of interaction with it's enviroment changes or doesnt change its form that it is today. We have 4 fingers and a thumb because 6 fingers wouldnt help us. We don't need extentive strength because we know how to over come it, we can create devices to aid us, therefore exercising the brain.

You can ask why we don't have wings, well if we look at the species we evolved from they survived without wings, or had their own way of surivial without them. As for us we don't need them because we can get all the food we need with climbing, or using devices (like a stick). We don't need them to escape from predators because we can create weapons, we know areas to go to for shelter (Notice how thats common for many species), We know the areas where the dangers lurk, etc.

You can take every species and break down its strengths, weaknesses, and general differences to the smallest proportions and with knowning its enviroment know how it developed those features. So I firmly believe all the evidence for Evolution can be seen in plain site, and reassured with deeper scientific analysis.

Remember they are theories for a reason. People do like to believe that it's 100% proven, and they bring superiority over other theories. In the end its the most logicial, but it's still just as unproven as any other theory. It's hard not to be unbaised when it come to the method of how we exist, we like to have the theory solved so that we know exactly who we are, by nature we arent comfortable with ambiguity.

How can we explain this scientifically -- those "emotional emmissions" we all feel around us (person lookin at us behind our backs is quite the example) in a scientific way, then?

His or her breath. Probably very faint, but plausible if they were close. Other then that coincedence, A light shift, a vibration....

What I don't understand is how the US is suppose to stop it. People blame the US for the invasion, and all that, but really, it's different if you know your the primary target. Anyways.

As long as America is the "evil" country, Someone will always stand up to it, You don't need Osama or Saddam dead because their place will be taken. Even if you bombed the country to the ground, SIX times over with Hydrogen Bombs Someone from somewhere will emerge with a new religion extremist regime. It's getting to a point where all these S-bombing/missions are getting rediculious, its slapping humanity in the face. What happened to our primal instincts! We still keep stupidity around, why not rage and destruction?

As much as I don't agree with bush he's had a rough period to be president. I'd be droppin bombs.