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7 NeutralAbout Tom Booth
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Fort Plain, N.Y.
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Computer programming, web page creation, Stirling heat engine model building.
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Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
I believe I already have. By simply insulating the cold plate, which is where the engine's refrigeration winds up, to prevent ambient heat infiltration, the same way an ice box is insulated, the "sink" or cold plate getting colder, demonstrably causes the engine to run better and faster. Why not just carve it out on some stone tablets? Sorry, but I don't need this, there ia a multitude of forums I could be posting to that don't have such nonsensical restrictions. Close the thread if you want boo hoo. Your loss.- 85 replies
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Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
"demonstrate"? How? I was recording experiments so the results could be known to everyone, with as little interpretation on my part as possible, but apparently posting video is frowned upon here, if not outright grounds for expulsion, so, who can possibly demonstrate anything with such restrictions? -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
Direction of rotation. In other words, if a Stirling engine were operated, turning clockwise, putting energy into a big giant external flywheel, then the heat source was removed, and the flywheel continued to drive the engine, in the same clockwise direction, the engine would then be functioning as a refrigerator. This is not any different than what takes place, or can, take place, as a result of a Stirling engine storing energy in its own flywheel, then proceeding through the remainder of the cycle on that stored momentum. -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
It has been my observation that the Stirling engine cycle is functionally equivalent to the expansion refrigerating engine described above. The comparison is appropriate. What exotic machinery? A Stirling cryo-cooler is essentially the same machine as a Stirling engine An expansion engine is similarly not at all "exotic" or complicated. It is simply any piston in a cylinder driven by the expansion of a gas. -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
Expansion engines are used in cryogenic refrigeration. It IS a variety or type of refrigeration, just not one many people are familiar with. This is from a public domain document: https://operations.fnal.gov/rookie_books/Cryo_Primer.pdf -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
. How does that post violate any rule? The video is highly relevant to the discussion, the relevant points are written out and quoted in the text of my post. The relevant content is at the very beginning of the video, nobody is required to watch the entire video, or any of it for that matter to participate in the discussion, the video and the point being made are certainly open to discussion, it is the point of the discussion. It is not MY video, is not in my YouTube lineup at all, so it's not to boost my YouTube ranking which is not even monetized I've read the rules pertaining to vi -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
I've been looking for some kind of "authoritative" confirmation of my statement, that a Stirling cryo-cooler is THE SAME as a Stirling engine running in The SAME direction as a Stirling engine, as very often, there is quite a bit of misinformation on the internet that a Stirling cooler runs in the opposite direction from a Stirling engine. There is, at least, this old video: This does not seem to be a very well documented point of fact. "The machine running in the same forward direction in both cases". -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
Yes, I do plan on getting some sort of temperature probes. I don't know of anywhere locally that would carry that sort of thing. Anyone have any recommendations? Something thin preferably, that maybe could be taped to the hot & cold plates. The first engine is still intact, except for having stripped off the insulation for that video. I'm building another engine. This time my plan is to add Regenerator matrix. I'm not sure what you mean by, let us deal with the simple machine first. My time for working on this stuff is very limited, so when I have time, I'm not just goi -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
Good point. The hot bottom plate was insulated everywhere except between that and the Dewar flask mouth, so indeed that certainly cut down on heat loses from the hot plate, which would have made it hotter. However, thinking about it, the bottom periphery had been insulated the whole time as well s the whole Dewar and all. The increase in RPM took place after the cold plate was covered. The sides of the engine are mostly a short section of plexiglass tubing, so is not very conductive, but the air spaces between the nylon bolts could transfer heat between the plates by convec -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
I've decided to see what happens if the aluminum cold plate, which might sink a lot of heat even insulated, is replaced with plexiglass, which is over 1000 X less heat conducting. -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
In regard to these experiments, this article is also significant: https://www.stirlingengine.com/#5 The section on Stirling cryo-coolers. There is also additional information on Stirling coolers in the FAQ on this website. What is important to understand, I think, is that a Stirling cryo-cooler is not a Stirling heat engine "running backwards". As a cooler, the engine runs in the same direction as for power output. It functions in almost exactly the same way, mechanically, as a cooler as it does as an engine. A Stirling engine is really a refrigeration device th -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
The picture/animation originated here: http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~khirata/english/anime_c.htm There is a ton of information on that site, as well as the American Stirling Engine site. Originally I had wanted to, and intended to order engines from the ASE company, but their website was inaccessible at the time. The animation is overly simplistic and does not really begin to delve into the thermodynamics of the engine. For example, the illustration shows water cooling of the top plate, which is common. But imagine that instead of cooling the top plate with water, it were -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
In talking about Stirling engines there are some technical terms that can't be avoided. "Displacer" is one. It is, as far as I know, unique to Stirling heat engines. I've explained the function of the displacer in as many ways as possible and from as many different angles as possible. Displacement is not a common word, but the dictionary definition for displacement describes what the displacer does in a Stirling engine. It makes no difference what I say or how I say it, if you don't know the technical terminology and what it means in the context of Stirling engines, it will have no m -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
A closer look at the displacer. As can be seen, just a thin, lightweight, loose fitting disk of styrofoam. -
Heat engine experiments and 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Tom Booth replied to Tom Booth's topic in Speculations
You can be deliberately obtuse and try to drag this out but my sentence is perfectly clear. I was referring to THE DISPLACER!!!- 85 replies
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