StringJunky

Nice imagery. The electronic parts are very evocative of Tangerine Dream; 70's electronica.

Ah Michel! <blushes> you are... It could be..... Funky and funny!

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They like to learn empirically.

The mnemonic I use to remember which is which: Mites grow up and tights come down.

They have been my favourite since I was 14. I saw them play that in 1988 and The Wall in ''81. That vid is a great example but the sheer magnitude and warmth of the sound can't be captured in film. I am reminded of something DJ John Peel said many years ago; " His playing went so deep inside me I'm sure I'm having his baby"! Time is the story of many people's lives. That solo just knocks me out; I have to get my air guitar out. Here's a bit of chocolate and wine for the ears. Check out Yanick Etienne's voice:

I love the non-lexical chorus line in the Enigma track; quite visceral. That IMAX track is very absorbing and chilling. Thanks. +1:) Yes, born '62. I had a friend who was a big fan of them who exposed me to them, and Kraftwerk, in the mid-seventies, The German electro groups were the original trance bands imo; I loved the sonic landscapes they painted in my mind.

I'll look them up. I often think rock, as I like it, is dead but clearly not.

Super Track. Another band for me to check out. Cheers.

You could make the subject of this post a thread in itself in Ethics or possibly philosophy depending on the angle you wish to pursue. You could encompass what iNow said and what you think as contrasting approaches to discuss in your question.

I appreciate your candour. Perhaps, the mods might split this off just before your last post because it and this post is not related to this forum. If you have an appreciation and affection for the opposite sex, could you not stop labeling yourself as 'homosexual', which can be an exclusive term regarding ones desires, and think of yourself as 'sexually fluid'; use a label with a wider definition to define that side of yourself? That way, you might not feel so trapped within one narrow view of oneself; be and think what you feel at any particular time instead of thinking "I can't do this or think like this because I'm <insert label>". Just let yourself go. I might add that the mods, forum policy, and many nuclear members are supportive of all varieties of gender and sexual identities, consistent with the laws and commonsense of the UK and US. If you wish to talk about that side of things in other contexts within more appropriate forums on this site it will not be frowned upon. Regarding sexual identity reassignment I can only reiterate what we've said before.

It's almost a Freudian Slip isn't it? Speaking of disabilities or diseases in the same breathe as homosexuality; revealing the fact that one really thinks it's deviant behaviour, despite ones protests to the contrary; we are prone to carrying unconscious, culturally-indoctrinated agendas that turn out to be divisive and not conducive to an all-inclusive social harmony. I say this not to denigrate you John, but to possibly help you realise that your approach may be coloured by a long-held personal agenda, unconsciously created and nurtured within your family, perhaps, or other important personal influences. I admit, I have fallen for the very same influences in my teens and early twenties. It takes a conscious effort to address and deal with it so that one can have a more objective, inclusive and compassionate view of people who fall outside of cultural norms but who's behaviour is not detrimental, in any way, to a cohesive and co-operative society. Social workers in the UK are keenly aware of personal biases and agendas affecting their judgement; I learnt about it from one or two such friends.

It's nice to see your reference acknowledging the true cause that we've highlighted. It's a whole other discussion whether the medical establishment should support someone surgically to address those social pressures. To do so would be to relent to the whims of those that support such injustice.

Due to the many problems associated with this subject and the resulting paucity of such research evidence, perhaps it might be better to look at some other aspect of human behaviour that runs on the same basic mechanism but not so problematic ethically.

The salient point that iNow, DrmDoc, and I are putting across is that it is society that has the problem, not the individual with the crisis because society wants to pigeonhole them into discrete boxes; the idea of reassignment becomes moot. In one scenario you are aligning the body with the brain If society was 90% homosexual and 10% heterosexual, what's the the odds on a homosexual person saying "I want to be a heterosexual?

If people can be bisexual, why can't they be bigendered?

The OP is talking about reassigning the brain, not the body. If you notice, more carefully, DrmDoc is asserting the right of people to be the way they are without the need for drastic procedures. Society should embrace the idea that gender and sexual identity can be fluid between all states within one person. It is society's expectations, imo, that force transgendered people to try and fit the culturally instilled mould of a 'man' or a 'woman', hence, many seeking surgery.

That's some mean, meaty, funky bass playing.

Fair enough. You kind of get used to newcomers coming into this subject from a moral standpoint.. Sexual and gender identity is an emerging property of several areas of the brain, and, possibly, the endocrine system. I don't think there is a localised area specifically for single aspects of a behaviour. I'm sure a more knowledgeable member can give you the current state of the art.