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ChatGPT Gave Instructions for Murder, Self-Mutilation, and Devil WorshipOpenAI’s chatbot also said “Hail Satan.” By Lila Shroff The AtlanticChatGPT Gave Instructions for Murder, Self-Mutilation, an...OpenAI’s chatbot also said “Hail Satan.”

Well thanks for the video, but what folks here were hoping for was a link to a news report from a reputable media source which details these findings you described on pilot error. Something we can read.

It could be what exchemist described or it could also be someone just expressing irritation (for example, in some cultures calling someone "my friend" may be seen as presumptuous - I am personally okay with it but I know not everyone is). The latter use of DV is not real helpful, but it seems to be a forum with a range of personalities. If you can direct me to a posting of yours where a friendly and courteous reply was downvoted, I might want to cancel it - I am not a fan of weaponized DVing.

Also there was previous mention of the SCOTUS decision on presidential immunity from prosecution. If they can't prosecute contempt, why bother to issue an arrest warrant for it?

People have had copy/paste on PCs, tablets, laptops and smartphones for what, three to four decades? Did you just arrive in 2025 by a 1970s era time machine? If this is really beyond you, just tell us what news outlet had this latest update and roughly the title of the article.

Frau Vat and I have also been noticing this decline in search results. More sponsored crap and less results from non-commercial sources. Most of the AI quotes I'm seeing here in this thread seem to be hallucinating garbage.

I have to let this thread go. Mainly for the lack of randomized double blind clinical trials in an area of medicine where this would seem to be essential. Especially given the strong connections between gut function and mental states - a lot of what goes on in the Wild West of microbiota research just screams placebo to me.

Civil suits are legally permitted, even if they are frivolous or falsely represent a cause of action. Trump is misusing this legal process to intimidate media and misrepresent accurate reporting as libel or slander. It stinks, and it erodes democracy and the Constitution, but a rich person can flood the courts with garbage suits. The slender hope is that some judges will dismiss these suit filings or rule against them (or a jury will do so). The problem is media organizations who opt to settle because they cannot afford a prolonged legal battle or because they fear some retaliation from the government directed by its MAGA goons.

That was not the legal dilemma my post was addressing. I was giving the example of someone actually doing a criminal act (killing pets) and that was simply one example. I wasn't proposing that people be arrested for Maybe Will Kill Teenagers, when they've committed the animal killing. My point was that ASPD, when it manifests in harm of some kind, would be responded to as any such behavior, with legal penalties. If, while incarcerated, a prison psychiatrist makes a finding of ASPD, then that would become a factor to consider at a parole hearing - especially if the perpetrator did not express remorse for their actions, or showed antisocial behavior with respect to other prisoners. So, no, not a fan of Phil Dickian "pre-crime" enforcement. That film came immediately to mind when I started following this thread.

Bioethics tends to try and look beyond simple cost/benefit. We don't quantify the value of human lives - when we do, we get stuff like slavery, prostitution, and revenge killings. Some ASPD behaviors are violent, harm others and therefore the person must be sequestered for public safety. You can't really force a "cure" for a behavior, you can only deal with the behavior (and strive to reduce social conditions that provoke such behaviors). That means in the context of how it affects others. If someone scores high on the Hare Checklist, and is just selfish and doesn't share, then society should not reward that (instead of electing them to political office or top management). If they score high on the HC, and start slaughtering the neighbor's dogs who disturb their beauty sleep, and the teenagers are next on their list, then that's a different situation where criminal justice comes onto play.

My wife doesn't take any shit from me, so that approach is off the table. I think one of the issues he is looking at is donors who have had prior drug treatments that lead to growth of drug-resistant bacteria in the gut. In 2019, a person died in the United States after receiving an FMT that contained drug-resistant bacteria. I am providing link partly so that Mr Harrop will understand I have been reading about this aspect of FMT. https://web.archive.org/web/20190904210827/https://www.fda.gov/safety/medwatch-safety-alerts-human-medical-products/fecal-microbiota-transplantation-safety-communication-risk-serious-adverse-reactions-due I'm also aware that Arizona State did a study on the possible benefits of FMT for autism. I will provide a link, but basically the authors conceded they had too small a sample size, and that their results were not conclusive. They were, as scientists like to call it, "suggestive." Which means that hype and wild enthusiasm, and sites that foster that, are not called for. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5264285/

But Ex was not describing the whole of FMT as speculative - he was referring specifically to its application to chronic fatigue syndrome, which is the usage the OP was focused on. I understand your intention was good and that people misunderstand each other umpteen times per week on forums. In that spirit, I would recommend cancelling Ex's downvote (and generally wish people wouldn't use that option so much, so it's not just you). Granted, he provoked you by stating that he keeps you on Ignore. As an old friend used to say (and aptly, for this thread): "Nobody's shit don't stink."

I'm getting a notification Harrop replied to me 13 hours ago, but when I click it, it sends me to this page where the most recent reply is 21 hours ago? And he doesn't seem to have a post on this page (page two). Were posts deleted but not the notifications?

What concerns me is the notion that fecal transplant is the hill he must die on. While I might agree there are research avenues there, there is also a lot of work going on on multiple approaches to gut health - probiotics, prebiotics, FODMAP intake, hormonal regulation, elemental diet, herbal antimicrobials (for SIBO, in particular), antibiotics, prokinetic agents, and meal timing, to name a few. My training was in biology with a pre-med emphasis, later bolstered by job experience and training where I worked (for five years) with a nutritionist on getting these approaches and others to clients in direct care. So I had a chuckle when Michael said people here "lack the motivation to become well-informed on this." And I suspect @CharonY is light years beyond me, on the whole microbiology and clinical side. @StringJunky also seems well informed on this sort of topic. And we have a couple dozen more members who seem able to get up to speed rapidly on health/medical topics.

Bernoulli's principle does seem to work with the lattice windows mentioned. The point is that the air stream accelerates in the interior space, giving the cooler feeling as air moves across the skin more rapidly than it would have coming through a standard large aperture window. I mean, no, the lattice doesn't actually extract heat or anything fancy, it just makes the air move faster. BTW, I would think that sizeable attic vents would help overall house cooling more than the stack shown on OP. Attic air can get up to 150 F in hot climates, so it's useful to ventilate the space thoroughly. Then block vents in winter.

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Yikes. If only there were a way to, say, fit 90 billion neural nodes into a volume of, say, 1300 mL and run that on 20 watts, using glycogen and amino acids. Good Lord, think of the reasoning power such a system could muster! Think of it, a planet with eight billion such systems! [/smartassery]

RMs are a type of LLM which gets special training. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasoning_language_model They focus on multi-step problem-solving, where the model generates intermediate reasoning steps (also called a "chain of thought") before arriving at a final answer.

The cat sleeping fact is interesting to the same degree that "water is wet" is. I am currently watching six kittens (2 1/2 weeks old) sleeping, btw. This age is roughly the start of the "everyone who passes by completely loses their mind and has to be dragged away to recover " phase. All are, like LLMs, showing critical vulnerabilities in their reasoning models. These vulnerabilities are what we're counting on, since five of the kittens have to go. BTT: This paper certainly points to a vulnerability to deliberate malign hacker attacks on these AI reasoning models. This suggests to me an area where the alternate neurosymbolic approach might help with system security against such adversarial inputs, i.e. an extensive set of relevance rules to help the AI discard the "cat crap." Might also save server power, preventing the system allocating processing to nonsense.

In keeping with forum rules, OP should provide a definition of what constitutes a "high quality donor" and not just point towards a link to be clicked on. And the general gut biome discussion IS germane to this topic insofar as present knowledge informs the definition of what high quality is, and how quality would be determined for a specific transplant recipient. This site, while it may be an impressively large citation dump, has a lot of references that are not to peer-reviewed primary research, and seems very slanted to a pro FMT perspective. Causal connections along the GB axis are not as well-established as you claim. You are hopeful, but you shouldn't get ahead of yourself. I would keep in mind Charon's observation...

YH TO MIT, TIMOTHY

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/19/killing-of-young-siblings-at-gaza-water-point-shows-seeking-lifes-essentials-now-a-deadly-peril If I were a pitbull, I would find a way to clamp down on Netanyahu's groin and then hang there as long as possible. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/19/gaza-israel-palestinians-killed-idf-fires-on-crowds

Though giving up palindromes for neurological safety reasons, I was recently reminded of mirrordromes, a word I invented to describe words which appear just the same in a mirror (or seen on a window decal from the inside). A nonsense example would be: donob (though the serif on the n spoils it slightly). Emily, alas, has little regard for mirrordromes. Her friend AVA, however, is more kindly disposed. If anyone has knowledge of AVA's preferences, feel free to share that.

Research into gut microbiome and also the gut-brain axis is quite important. I've had some experience with the issue as it impacts C-section infants in later life (they don't receive as much gut microbiota from the mother, and have higher rates of enteric health problems). Can you provide a brief summary of what you see as the funding problems for such research? (Aside from the obvious problems with the current "small gubment" and anti-science ethos in DC).

I, for one, love a good yarn about wolves and sea snakes!