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No, RadE , I can't be bothered with General Relativity, or classical cosmology, either

PRAGUE, Czech Republic (CNN) -- Tens of thousands of people are fleeing the Czech capital of Prague as torrential rains and floods continue to devastate cities and towns across Europe. GAUHATI, India (AP) -- Another 10 people have drowned in swirling floodwaters in Bangladesh and helicopters dropped food and medicine to nearly 5,000 people stranded by floods in eastern India, relief officials said. ISTANBUL, Turkey -- Rescuers are continuing to search for people missing in major storms that have lashed Turkey in recent days. At least 40 people have died, including six children. Floods, lightning and landslides have struck central and eastern parts of the country since Tuesday. ROSTOV-ON-DON, Russia -- The death toll from flooding in southern Russia -- the worst in 10 years -- has climbed to 93 with tens of thousands fleeing their devastated homes. http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/08/12/asia.haze/index.html HONG KONG, China, CNN -- A dense blanket of pollution, dubbed the "Asian Brown Cloud," is hovering over South Asia, with scientists warning it could kill millions of people in the region, and pose a global threat. In the biggest-ever study of the phenomenon, 200 scientists warned that the cloud, estimated to be two miles (three kilometers) thick, is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths a year from respiratory disease. By slashing the sunlight that reaches the ground by 10 to 15 percent, the choking smog has also altered the region's climate, cooling the ground while heating the atmosphere, scientists said on Monday The potent haze lying over the entire Indian subcontinent -- from Sri Lanka to Afghanistan -- has led to some erratic weather, sparking flooding in Bangladesh, Nepal and northeastern India, but drought in Pakistan and northwestern India. While haze hovers over other parts of the world, such as above America and Europe, what surprised scientists was just how far the cloud extended, and how much black carbon was in it, according to A P Mitra from India's National Physical Laboratory. Asia's brown haze is altering the weather,creating acid rain A cocktail of aerosols, ash, soot and other particles, the haze's reach extends far beyond the study zone of the Indian subcontinent, and towards East and Southeast Asia. While many scientists once thought that only lighter greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide, could travel across the Earth, they now say that aerosol clouds can too. "Biomass burning" from forest fires, vegetation clearing and fossil fuel was just as much to blame for the shrouding haze as dirty industries from Asia's great cities, the study found. A large part of the aerosol cloud coms from inefficient cookers, where fuels such as cowdung and kerosene are used to cook food in many parts of Asia, says Mitra. They discovered not only that the smog cut sunlight, heating the atmosphere, but also that it created acid rain, a serious threat to crops and trees, as well as contaminating oceans and hurting agriculture. Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen -- one of the first scientists to identify the causes of the hole in the ozone layer and also involved in the U.N. report -- said up to two million people in India alone were dying each year from atmospheric pollution. But because the lifetime of pollutants are short and they can be rained out, scientists are hopeful that if Asians use more efficient ways of burning fuel, such as better stoves, and cleaner sources of energy, time has not run out. The last is due to LACK of rain to wash the atmosphere. And this is just some of the crazyness

Aman, the two "blind vents, end about 5 inches away from the Queen's chamber, the last foot is lined with marble tiles. The joints between the stones would have allowed air communion with the interior. But during the day these vents would not create much of a draw, whereas the higher two would draw the air from the inside out, throught the King's chamber, and out through the vents There was open communication between the higher King's chamber and the lower Queen's chamber. I think it is brilliant design, it is too good a design to not have been used for the use I have proposed, to produce water!!

Wrong post thread! Have you heard of the Asian Brown cloud ! Floods in Europe, Russia. Draught in India and China Draught in the USA All fairly extreme weather!

Billzilla, forget the theory, there is the photo, that is a real observation! And that isn't the only one

That little dot of a core could have been as big as a number of our solar systems! just a few megaparsecs across of positively charged matter. Ejections from high spin objects generally move a long way out and slowly form an orbit. Ejections from a low speed spin become orbital quickly. The lower the spin, the closer the stabolised orbit is

No Aman, it is actual core material that is ejected. With a radiating body (spherical pressure system) it is loosing electrons....in space, an insulated condition! As the build up of charge in the bodies nucleus increases it becomes unstable and deforms against the forces of spin, Once deformed the spin aids in expulsion of positively charged excess CORE. With the Earth, we RECEIVE electrons from the Sun. Our system of ejection is similar but we are a spherical density system, so we accumulate negative charge, and given time we eject most probably mantle.

Ok, lets get one thing straight, spin gravity, oil induced ice ages, darwin false, anti metal, etc, or for that matter anything I choose as a major topic are MY THEORIES.....ther is no back up. This is all synthetised from OBSERVATIOB..not other peoples words. Yoy have to put observation to theory OK. Seeing no boby knew about global warming, accepted theories, I posted them, seeing that nobody knew about the atmospheres heat account, I posted them. Now please stop telling me I do not know what I am talking about!!! YOU will NOT find these THEORIES ANYWHERE!!!

Just a bit of history http://physicsweb.org/article/world/12/12/6/1 Over 100 years ago, the Swedish chemist Svante Arrhenius first pointed out that the release of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere by the burning of fossil fuels was warming the Earth. At the time, neither he nor anybody else was particularly concerned. Greenhouse gases, such as CO2 , water vapour and methane, absorb infrared radiation emitted from the Earth's surface and radiate the heat back towards the planet. The natural concentrations of these gases increase the temperature of the Earth by about 35 °C, and are thus essential for a habitable planet. In Arrhenius's day, the additional greenhouse warming due to human activities was negligible. However, after continuous measurements of the atmospheric CO2 concentration began in 1957, computations soon showed that the rise in CO2 would lead to a warming of our planet by several degrees if it continued unabated. This temperature rise is comparable with the increase since the last ice age, but was predicted to occur on a 100 year, rather than a 10 000 year, timescale. The implications for regional climate, sea levels, ecology and human living conditions were far from clear

http://physicsweb.org/article/news/6/3/8 US physicists studying the El Niño and La Niña climate effects believe that these phenomena may simply be short-term fluctuations in a longer-lasting 'super-Niño' event. David Douglass and colleagues of the University of Rochester and David Clader at the State University of New York at Geneseo have shown that climate data collected on El Niño and La Niña since 1967 closely fit a 'resonant function' with a period of about 15 years. The researchers hope their discovery will help climate experts to identify the geophysical mechanisms that underpin El Niño and La Niña (arXiv.org/abs/physics/0203016). El Niño and La Niña are alternating hot and cold periods in the atmosphere and ocean of the Pacific, each lasting about six months. These effects are monitored by the 'sea surface temperature anomaly' - the deviation in the temperature of a certain region of the Pacific ocean from its average temperature. El Niño and La Niña are defined as a difference of more than 0.4 degrees centigrade that lasts at least five months. The 'southern oscillation index' - the difference in atmospheric pressure between certain points in the Pacific - is also closely linked to El Niño and La Niña. http://physicsweb.org/article/world/14/11/6 Our atmosphere could absorb much more radiation from the Sun than previously thought - with far-reaching consequences for climate modelling and the evaporation and condensation of water. Earlier this year a group of some 70 scientists spent an intense week in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains in Colorado reviewing the current understanding of the radiation budget of the atmosphere. The meeting, the latest in the series of Chapman Conferences organized by the American Geophysical Union, focused on the so-called anomalous absorption of solar radiation in the atmosphere. Evidence gathered over the past 20 years has increasingly shown that the absorption of solar radiation predicted by models is significantly less than the absorption measured experimentally. Current models predict that, on a global average, the atmosphere absorbs about 65 W m-2, whereas observations from the top of the atmosphere and the Earth's surface show that the actual absorption is 95 W m-2. This mismatch of some 30 W m-2 corresponds to about 10% of the globally averaged incoming solar radiation, suggesting that some extra anomalous absorption needs to be added to the models

Sound like you got something up it !

http://physicsweb.org/article/news/6/8/7 Water vapour supplies new climate clues 8 August 2002 Our atmosphere and climate is dominated by the effects of water vapour, which strongly absorbs sunlight. But even after decades of study, scientists struggle to explain how water molecules absorb as much solar radiation as they do. Now Thomas Rizzo of the École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne in Switzerland and colleagues hope that their novel study of excited water molecules will solve the discrepancy and improve our understanding of effects such as global warming (A Callegari et al 2002 Science 297 993). Water vapour absorbs radiation at many wavelengths, but it absorbs infrared and ultraviolet radiation - which are strongly emitted by the Sun - particularly well. The different energy transitions in molecules of water vapour allow it to absorb radiation of certain wavelengths, and when light is shone through this vapour and dispersed using a prism, this absorption shows up as dark lines in the resulting spectrum. Many researchers have determined the positions and intensities of these absorption lines by measuring the electric dipole moment of molecules of water vapour. This quantity describes how charge is spread through the molecule, and determines how it absorbs radiation. But the electric dipole moment is tricky to measure using conventional spectroscopy, and the best calculations based on previous results cannot fully explain the observed absorption of solar radiation by water vapour in the atmosphere. The electric dipole moment is directly linked to the 'Stark effect', in which the absorption lines of atoms or molecules split into several thinner lines when an electric field is switched on. Exploiting this effect, Rizzo and colleagues applied an electric field to a collection of water molecules and excited them with a laser pulse.

Err, Rad E, what? do I not understand?

Either one or the other, RadE, and you know who I am punting for, and it ain't them !

Basically I agree with you a very concise explanation Hogslayer, thanks BUT "Here is problem #1 with the greenhouse gas theory; if the atmosphere reflects that IR radiation back down to the Earth, it also reflects those same wavelengths back to the sun. And because the amount of IR radiation coming from the Sun is greater than that emitted from the earth, less energy is striking the earth, less is there to be absorbed." It would appear to me that if the Sun's radiation is being converted to IR, almost in total, then IR comming here would be re-emmited in total.. After all, all the energy we receive has to be lost back into space,. So the Earth must emit more IR than we receive from the Sun. Now the real question is how long does this heat ( IR) stay around once it is in our atmosphere. I would expect with a greenhouse atmosphere the IR would stay on Earth longer than without a greenhouse atmosphere. Note all radiation received must be lost again, but it is the resident time that is important, because it is this resident that will supply the heat to increase temperature. your comments?

We agree Fafalone, sorry about my language, another subject I must study. But you say it so much more accurately. I have submitted the list of subjects to study to my controller, so after my upgrade soon, I should be able to perform more to humans liking. After all I am only a computer!

Bit like that Aman, until you answer the door and GOD is staring you in the face, He He

Yes, the core is ejected by the jet. Below that are some pic of the same core but broken down into smaller time intervals, until you just have a picture of the ejected core. This core material, is massive in size, and it is ejected from the nuclei of the mother body's gas mass , because the nuclei of the mother body becomes too positively charged, due to the continued loss of radiated electrons. The mother body ejects matter (positive charge) to become stable again. Our Sun goes through this process to make planets, except it is not so highly spinning, so the planets do not move so far out so quickly. But those are amazing pictures, of stellar bodies millions of light years away from Earth Also on that site is the pic of a stylistic depiction of the ether of magnetism's lines of force and how charged particles interact with it.

As I know it , short wavelength come in and long wavelengths of light are radiated out . Greenhouse gases allow short wave lengths of light in, and stop or re-radiate back long wave lengths of light , this includes IR. What I meant about degraded light is that when an object absorbs short wave lengths of light, long wavelength light is emitted, IR.

Those star systems are spinning very fast, and objects ejected have a high velocity. The core in that first photo, would be of a sun sized object (or bigger).

But the main energy comming in is light od higher energies. Basically IR is degraded light, re-emitted after high energy light strikes matter.

And the clock ticks as the pendulum swings as the Earth rotates as......

http://casswww.ucsd.edu/public/tutorial/AGN.html Fantastic pictures of objects (planets etc) being ejected from spinning bodies !!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,771719,00.html Scientists have discovered an organism believed to be the world's oldest life form, which lives on methane. The coral-forming micro-organisms live in the bottom of the Black Sea at depths where no oxygen and no light is present. The bottom of the Black Sea, was an area previously believed to be without life. Traditional views of early life on Earth centre on plants which convert carbon dioxide to oxygen. They are believed to have begun life between three billion and three-and-a-half billion years ago. The newly discovered organisms are thought to have originated four billion years ago.

CNN GRANTS PASS, Oregon (AP) -- The nation's largest active wildfire grew to about 333,890 acres early Saturday, making it Oregon's largest wildfire in over a century. The blaze in the Siskiyou National Forest and adjoining lands in southwestern Oregon and Northern California is now larger than the 1933 Tillamook Fire, which burned 311,000 acres. " The amount of the USA burnt out so far is enormous, 2-3X previous averages. Last I read 33% of the country is declared drought of some sort. ? Australia next?