Zarkov

We all know ice ages occur ! Natural ice ages are cyclic and depend upon the fresh water (on land) and the amounyt of salt in the sea, all mediated by the Earth's specific distance from the sun in it's spiral out, as well as sun activity as well as axis precession as well as..... What we have done on this planet is to artifically increase the "saltyness " of the sea,,, the oil is effectively making the sea less able to evaporate at current temperatures. The natural consequence is then for clouds to get thinner, and allow more radiant heat in, to evaporate more water and so come into equilibrium again. This is happening, but these processes are not simple, they swinf like a pendulum. Oil has increased the pendulum swing, normally the release of fresh water would cause an ice age by increased heat / evaporation, but because this trigger is not natural, oil, fresh water release may have no affect. Prognosis very poor.... but and Ice Age will follow, maybe after we have destroyed everything

Burnt petroleum oil releases carcinogenic and endocrine modifying chemicals into the environment. Metals affect the genetic complement of new born children "Copper-dependent transcription factors regulate transcription of specific genes. Thus, cellular copper levels may affect the synthesis of proteins by enhancing or inhibiting the transcription of specific genes." A lot of metal ions gain entry to the nucleus, and once in this location, especially in the testicles of males, they interfere with the DNA transcription process, so the body turns out sperm with defects and often fatal flaws. Ultimately the male becomes sterile. >) The pathways that metals cause havoc is many and varied. Metals interfer with each, and therefore are additive and subtractive, they can act immediately or be locked away for later. With the above article, these researchers are following the leads I laid 25 years ago. If the modern need for proof is so high, just think of all those people with Alxheimers, and all the rest of the world accumulation mor metals, more babies doomed to a life of misery, and all the added pollution that has / is occurring, then ask yourself is pseudoscience that is based on true well worked out observations (no not theories), REAL !! or is it that people step on well worked out toes simply because of their ego!! A lot of science is real and it may not be immediately provable, but the implications of ignoring it can be so profound that it is better to err on the side of caution. Think about it :) The two major points I have been trying to increase awareness on here and elsewhere are just examples of life threatening pseudoscience. Oil on water ..... Metal poisioning.. both extremly important for LIFE on this planet !

I will just enjoy the looks on your faces when all the knocks return to your door, and you won't know what to say, when they ask, "Why didn't you know ?" Time will show the truth >

RadE, Hi, this is Pseudoscience!! oil film, verified, Ice age crystallising!!

RadE, Hi, this is Pseudoscience!! oil film, verified, Ice age crystallising!!

http://www.unep.org/geo2000/english/0111.htm * Petroleum hydrocarbons from refineries, petrochemical industries, oil terminals, oil spills from ships, pipeline accidents, disposal at sea of oil-contaminated ballast water and dirty bilge, and sludge and slop oil. Some 1.2 million barrels of oil are spilled into the Persian Gulf annually (ROPME/IMO 1996). Oil pollution in the eastern part of the Mediterranean seems to be minor compared to the shores of the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea. However, the Mediterranean Sea, which constitutes 0.7 per cent of the global water surface, receives 17 per cent of global marine oil pollution (UNESCWA 1991). War has caused extensive damage to the marine environment of the Persian Gulf. The Iran/Iraq war, which lasted eight years, targeted refineries, oil terminals, offshore oil fields and tankers. However, the war over Kuwait exceeded all other environmental disasters of the past four decades. Several million barrels of oil were released into the marine environment. Fallout from burning oil products produced a sea surface microlayer that was toxic to plankton and the larval stages of marine organisms. The long-term impacts of these wars on fisheries and the marine environment in general have yet to be assessed. http://gesamp.imo.org/no59/intro_4.htm One case where the presence of surface layer photochemistry has been demonstrated is the oxidation of hydrocarbons associated with petroleum contamination. While hydrocarbons usually are minor components of natural surface films, in spill situations they may easily exceed their solubilities in water (in the low 10-6 g l-1 range for low molecular weight aromatic hydrocarbons, decreasing with increasing molecular weight). In this case they form a separate phase on the sea surface and mix with components of the natural surface microlayer. Fossil hydrocarbons may become principal constituents of surface films, not only in an actual oil spill, but also in marine areas exposed to chronic low level petroleum contamination. A single pint of oil released onto the water can cover one acre of water surface (Buller 1995) Contaminated bilge water releases more oil into the marine environment each year than did the Exxon Valdez spill (Cliffton et al, 1995)

August 2nd 2002, New Scientist. "AN ANTIBIOTIC that removes metals from the brain is emerging as a prime candidate for treating Alzheimer's. This boosts a controversial theory that blames the accumulation of metals, rather than the formation of insoluble plaques, for the disease's characteristic mental deterioration. The antibiotic, clioquinol, binds to copper and zinc, and is small enough to get into the brain. It is no longer manufactured but was last used in the 1970s to treat intestinal infections. Now Ashley Bush and his colleagues at Harvard Medical School, the University of Melbourne and Prana Biotechnology in Melbourne are trying to resurrect the drug to treat Alzheimer's. The company will soon publish results from a phase II trial. Full details haven't been revealed yet, but Prana says the results are "extremely encouraging". In patients given clioquinol, the progression of the disease slowed down and levels of beta amyloid protein, which clumps together to form the plaques, were significantly reduced, it says. What's more, last week the researchers presented fresh evidence about how the treatment works. Lab tests show that clioquinol inhibits one of beta amyloid's rogue activities: churning out toxic hydrogen peroxide. That fits neatly with an emerging, fringe theory (New Scientist, 26 August 2000, p 36). Bush's team thinks that Alzheimer's starts when metals such as copper, iron and zinc accumulate in the brain and turn beta amyloid into a rogue enzyme that catalyses the production of hydrogen peroxide. As beta amyloid continues to bind to the metals, it forms long chains that eventually become insoluble plaques. But in Bush's view, the plaques are a symptom of the disease, not the cause. He thinks it is the hydrogen peroxide that wreaks havoc in brain cells. If Bush is right, removing metals from the brain should slow down and even reverse the disease, because beta amyloid should revert to its harmless form and stop making peroxide. He thinks this is what's happening in Alzheimer's patients on clioquinol. "The science has become very solid," says Bush. But his theory is controversial, not just because it proposes a different cause for the disease, but also because it suggests that treatments that target amyloid plaques are misdirected. Most researchers still believe that plaques are key players in the disease. Bush responds that the best way to prove his hypothesis is by finding a drug that works. "And we have," he says. "We have gone from bench to clinic, and the clinical trial is all about testing the hypothesis." "I think [bush's theory] is incredibly innovative," says George Perry of Case Western Reserve University in Ohio. He points out that a drug that not only binds to metal but also acts as an antioxidant to mop up hydrogen peroxide could be even more effective. The full results of the trials will be eagerly awaited, especially as other potential treatments for Alzheimer's are falling away. There was much excitement about Elan Pharmaceuticals' vaccine, which was designed to provoke an immune response that destroys plaques. But in March the company stopped a trial after several patients developed brain inflammation. Big hopes also rest on secretase inhibitors, designed to prevent the beta amyloid protein forming in the first place. But the inhibitors may not be as specific as once thought, and could block the formation of other, critical proteins. There are safety concerns about clioquinol, too. The antibiotic was taken off the market after thousands of patients developed a neurological disease. It was later suggested this was caused by the depletion of vitamin B12 in people whose levels were already low. Bush believes that such problems can be avoided by giving patients B12 supplements, as Prana has been doing in the current trials. If anyone has access to new Scientist archives coulf they source the fringe theory mentioned 26/aug/2000 p36, please, this is truely important research!!!

Oil forms monolayers (or thicker) where the molecules bind to each other quite strongly. Yes the turbulence of the sea help to minimise the affects, and increase evaporation. Also the oil would evaporate and come back in rain. Basically, more is comming rather than going. In the old days, when sailors needed to transfer cargo between boats, or in rescue, it was common practice to release quantities of oil overboard, to settle the sea. Oile reduces wave height....increases wind speed etc...

The research is being carried out by Ashley Bush, Harvard Medical School and the University of Melbourne and the PRANA Biotech School Melbourne. The antibiotic proposed is called CLIOQUINOL and it binds copper and zinc ( and I suspect other metals as well). Penacillamine is another antibiotic like chaelating agent. Basically the biochemical pathways to Alzheimers is :- Beta Amyaloid binds with metals, which causes polymerisation, which catalyses the production of hydrogen peroxide, which clumps the polymers into insoluble plaques. So the plaques are only symptoms of Alzheimers >

The latest New Scientist has an article that states researchers in Australia and overseas, have a new theory re Alzheimers disease. They postulate that the accumulation of iron, zinc, copper etc, causes a build up of hydrogen peroxide which induces amaloid plaques. They have proposed a chelating agent that is small enough to enter the brain tissues and remove these excess metals. Experiments with this drug in the past have been stopped because the petients developed Vit B12 deficiency, that vitamin is cobalt linked molecule. I will post more when I have viewed the article >

Yes, but now the pyramids are opened, different dynamica

Aman, the oil was first noted and analysed by micro layer marine biologists, and it was reported in the journals. It has since been reported in a number of publications I have viewed. On one of the other forums a poster actually found an article referring to the oil. I would like a solid reference as well, I am working on finding one.

"the same wavelengths which are prevented from escaping, are also now prevented from entering" This is not my version of events, you were going alright until this bit! No "greenhouse gases, are supposed to prevent IR leaving, not stopping incommings! The affect of the ":greenhouse effect" is marginal. The oil on the water affect is paramount.

Re air conditioned palaces, well they had air conditioning. At night they would freeze shallow trays of water ( air temp drops considerably at night) , collect this ics and drop it down a well shaft, this well communicated to a tower, so air drawn up the tower was drawn through the building! They had a few tricks or two . Your limestone critism is valid.... The inside of the condensing chambers was granite

So they ran out of grenades, so that is why I had the "killer" rabbit in my backyard!! Australia is considering putting Pyramids across our arid regions, to produce pyramid water, either that or desalination units. Serious concerns are being raised. The oil on water theory is still being overlooked, even though a "greenhouse effect" response from the weather is not being realised!

OK, mate Just put this together.. THE PYRAMIDS PROCESS The pyramids are a two part process. At night the whole inside of the Gaza pyramids were filled with night air, driven into the whole structure by the condensating inside. The two blind "air vents" leading to the Queen's chamber, were instrumental in this process as they were communicative with the whole internal structure. The outside of the pyramids was encased in an cemented air tight polished special limestone (alabastar) covering as an outer shell. During the day the two higher air vents would draw air out of the structure, sucking air through the condensate deposited the night before. The air drawn out by the higher vents would draw the very humid air (90% RH) created by the day temperature, from the whole internal structure, through the King's chamber where the moisture would quickly condense.. In this way the great pyramid was capable of producing reasonably large amounts of clean water 24 hours a day 7 day per week. All the other pyramids were templates for the great pyramids of Gaza. The inclusion of the air ducts as a part of the overall design, verifies the driving direction for the intended purpose, which was for dehumidification. These ducts were not present in earlier models. Those pyramids basically used the condensation at night, and the heat of the day to drive the internal dehumidification.

Yes but when you know better, or you put drinking + good water = survival you don't go drinking with the dogs

Yea I had one of them rabbits in my backyard. It would attack full frontal, unprovoked, it was worse than the Monty Python one

The Great Pyramid's four shafts have been known since 1872, but they are found in no other pyramid. Two, extending from the upper, or "Kings Chamber" exit into open air, but the lower two, from the "Queens Chamber," disappear within, and have sparked intense curiosity about where they lead to. Humidity in the King's Chamber was running at 90 percent, and the limestone walls were wet with moisture exhaled by crowds of tourists. http://www.mm2000.nu/sphinxn.html Yes ages seem to have changed.. The old kingdom 2780-2100 BC.

I agree Aman. With us gone the Earth will keep on regardless. An axial spin shift is another matter. We alread have a Chandler wobble, and a new axis through the Himalayas would cause a few worries re the flow of the sea. Just a thought, just Aman

Oh, didn't know about em, got a link Sayonara! Tee Hee

Well did any tell you of Ice Ages. Spinning axis shifts, when the ice caps (counterbalances) melt.......Things might not be alright, no matter what we do!!! It would be best to get an accurate understanding, rather than believe in pseudoscience!! What really COULD happen could wipe out our civilisation

I haven't any data on the craftsmen.. but the pyramids are at least 10000 years plus old. I will try and find more information I think they must have been standing in Egypt for so long that everybody forgot all about the details, or was it that the original designer died along with the technical and scientific details. The mystery only deepens!

"The Greek historian Herodotus, whom many consider the “father of history” and the world’s first travel writer, visited Egypt during the Fifth Century BCE" Sorry I missed this, he was a tourist about 5000+ years after the pyramids were built. By this time all was generally going to rack and ruin.....a lot of the knowledge was gone!! Interesting to think of Atlantis??

"The pharaohs of the Twelfth Dynasty had the great misfortune to be born after the twilight of the pyramid builders. The knowledge of how to construct a pyramid that would endure (not to mention the knowledge of the pyramid?s true meaning and purpose) did not survive the end of the Old Kingdom; more than anything else, it was the loss of this knowledge that precipitated the shift to mortuary temples and valley tombs." Seems these observations made by Herodotus were made well past the prime of what was Egypt. ." Hollywood epics and the Bible aside, there was no need to crack the whips over gangs of slaves. Archaeological excavations at Giza indicate that the workers were skilled laborers, craftsmen and engineers, well provided for. " This seems to be well accepted today!