blue89

These are BASIC spelling errors.

 

Euclidean is correct, but euclid is not

 

treatment is correct but tretament is not

 

interpretation is correct, but interperetations is not

 

These spelling erros do not matter much on a forum, but an abstract is far more important.

 

REALLY I DO NOTT CARE THESE FAULTS .. I HAVE LIVED STRICTLY ECONOMIC DIFFICULTIES DURING WHOLE OF MY LIFE.

 

I AM GIVING CARE TO ONLY MEANINGS

 

 

VERYOEN SAYS YOUR ENGLISH IS TOO POOR (JUST LIKE "YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHINGS : many thanks for such expressıons you made me happy very much )

 

The abstract I posted as an example contains all these key features and is 172 words. The entire point of an abstract is to summarize what you did, what you found and why it's relevant.

 

BUT you are missing every journal may have different privacy policy.

 

your shared abstract and your accepted manuscript was accepted by scientific reports ,mine was to nature physics

 

these are different

 

this abstract does not actually say what the proceeding paper is actually about, what specific methodology you used or developed, or what your result is. Does your method improve radiotherapy? How and by how much? You need these details in the abstract.

 

 

 

Dear Arete ;

 

the results & methododlogies & ... cannot be sumarised in abstract as they wanted.

 

because they would/allowe us to use between 150 and 250 words (no more words)

 

but only if only poject's rudiment will be >20 page. (too wide content)

the project's own will definitely spreads on over (at least) 200 page or more (and this will be only the part of mathematical discipline but there were three more disciplines ,too)

 

this project's rudiment which had been sent to harvard was 23 -25 page

 

 

I mean that I could find more mistakes if I were really critical. The whole abstract needs to be re-written (in my opinion).

 

I think someones are not willing to speak in enough amount of clearance to take obvious decision.

I am also feeling surprised ,probably they do not realise how I am series.

 

NOTE : NOT ACCEPTABLE = INCORRECT

 

 

that words must not have been mistake LOOK THE REASONS/EVIDENCES (I AM COURAGEOUS (NOT HURTING) )

 

--->> EUCLID cannot be incorrect : I am mathematician and I know that Euclid space is constructed with only these planes

 

1) (x,y,0) 2) (x,0,z) 3) (0,y,z) (no existence OF any else plane)

 

--->> interpretation

 

cannot be incorrect why it will already be almost impossible to invent/explore the real >3D space. we will be able to make interpretations (not inventions)

 

--->> treatment cannot be inccorrect ...very clear.

 

.....

 

etc.

 

this abstract does not actually say what the proceeding paper is actually about, what specific methodology you used or developed, or what your result is. Does your method improve radiotherapy? How and by how much? You need these details in the abstract.

 

 

 

 

I MUST EXPRESS THAT THIS CRITIQUE IS VERY GOOD / MEANINGFULL

 

THANKS TO ARETE

This is an interdisciplinary scientific research project to have a new form for treatment of cancer illness via modernizing its radiotherapy part under partial convenience of functional analysis’ completeness principle. I intended to take better results partially for cure of this illness and because of being systematized form of the same treatment,I do not expect to take worse results in comparison to existing treatment.however, it is clear that it would not be possible to explore whole of the real treatment via implementing this project even it be improved. In modern mathematics, there exist many type of functions and sequences or functional sequences.the project includes typically two methods and both of two methods based upon functional analysis’ application. And according to results of implemention,even if we take very little better results for tretament of cancer ,it will be possible to give the newest interperetations about euclid space especially about whether there exists a real space or spaces out of Euclid. this literature is rudiment and improvable.

 

I have marked in red what is simply not acceptable English, and I am not being very critical.

 

What do you mean with underlined of your words at last sentence?.

I have been quite confused!

 

You said earlier:

 

Yes, it can be hard to take corrections and constructive criticism. But it is important to get over the emotion and focus on learning from it.

 

 

It is not their job to do that. They wish to remain polite and so they make polite comments such as "We do not doubt the technical quality of your work" which means they haven't read it or they couldn't read it.

 

OK. I will get back to you later today or tomorrow...

 

there is still no discussion to take criticism already.

you ...

 

you don't want to understand .

I was implying the invisibility of evidence in almost all critiques.

otherwise no problem with this.

how wiill we be able to develop the science unless we be against criticism.

 

Strange , you are missing something...

SHOW ME THE INCORECTNESS. I DON'T BELIEVE YOUR WORDS NOW.

 

ABOUT GRAMMAR....

WHERE IS THE ERROR (IN ABSTRACT).

 

..

?

I must believe & obey Nikola Tesla's principles.

as I understood,

He was saying ; "winning hearts is the most valuable thing. money , scientific projects, studies , .. etc, nothing may be more valuable than hearts.

 

So ,if you are willing to discuss about it wholly,I might do it later via sharing almost wholly at forum.

 

already ,I have been looking for no money, no richness..

 

MY GOAL WOULD BE EARNING PEOPLE'S HEART & LOVES.

 

 

 

blue89

ABSTRACT

 

This is an interdisciplinary scientific research project to have a new form for treatment of cancer illness via modernizing its radiotherapy part under partial convenience of functional analysis’ completeness principle. I intended to take better results partially for cure of this illness and because of being systematized form of the same treatment,I do not expect to take worse results in comparison to existing treatment.however, it is clear that it would not be possible to explore whole of the real treatment via implementing this project even it be improved. In modern mathematics, there exist many type of functions and sequences or functional sequences.the project includes typically two methods and both of two methods based upon functional analysis’ application. And according to results of implemention,even if we take very little better results for tretament of cancer ,it will be possible to give the newest interperetations about euclid space especially about whether there exists a real space or spaces out of Euclid. this literature is rudiment and improvable.

 

this was official version which was submitted to nature physics.

yes ,ophiolitte . your all words are hurting :(

but I am feeling quite surprising.

I have been contacting with many many journals & services & associations

why any of them did not mention about my english as you say that it was too poor.

ophiolitte be aware that I think you will never be helpful to anyone.

I don't discuss your opinion.

I express what I am understanding from your hurting words and this is not the first time you do it.

They rejected it because they didn't think it was good enough for their journal. Further contact will be nothing but time wasting fire all involved.

 

if you are sure,and they confirm this. probably I will have to find new ways for job. (I will have to leave to continue science)

I was almost sure why some professors did not refuse it (meaning it was illogical)

look I am marking some keywords to support my ideas.

 

 

 

Dear ..

Thank you for submitting your manuscript "Mathematical Interference To Cure Of Cancer Ilness And Research To Reach Newest Clues About >3D Space" which we are regretfully unable to offer to publish.

It is Nature Physics' policy to return a substantial proportion of manuscripts without sending them to referees. Decisions of this kind are made by the editors of Nature Physics according to the demanding editorial criteria of the journal.

In the present case, while your findings may well prove stimulating to others' thinking about such questions, we regret that we are unable to conclude that the work provides the sort of firm advance in general understanding that would warrant publication in Nature Physics.

We are sorry that we cannot respond more positively on this occasion.

Regards,

Nature Physics

 

 

they prefer to publish instead suitability or being appropriate .

they also prefer "to conclude" .

 

I am being friendly by trying to help you.

 

You stubbornly refuse to be helped.

 

 

 

Dear Strange

 

at first I think you have not met me yet. I mean you do not know how my personality entertaining & friendly is.

but I am saying repeatedly. I don't mean that it would be incorrect taking help.

but I say I have already had no chance ,now. (remember please My parents are illiterate ,and I have no economic option.

however ,as I said i think I have strong ability to study independently. but of course if it would be possible to take help,this would make more quick the process.

 

 

I don't know what point you are referring to. But as they have said that they will not publish then you should stop emailing them. You will only damage any future chance you might have.

 

really , normnally as every scientists I am highly willing to develop science ,especially via engineering. but I would remind you that some journals may have differences in comparison to their each policy

so ,I mean that you have not explained the actual mean with enough clearance to make me understand.

I thought the possibility that editor rejected because of incomplete version of paper.

 

(they implied that I had had to submit the whole of paper, (not only abstract))

 

Please don't try and argue about English grammar

 

why not? ,I am not native turkish. but I am sure my turkish language is very very good. it is so good that I may present breaking news. I think it would be more relevant with culture:

ok. even if I do not accept you are friendly , you are lovely. I think you have also flexible personality thats good.

 

 

 

when yours is execrable.

 

Dear Strange ,actually I had tried to tell many many time. I am accepting this is not good why I live strictly difficult economic problems. Remember please , my computer is unuseful ,but intimately I am already trying to change them with correct ones.

 

 

 

I didn't say "what is interference" because I know, in general terms, what interference is. My question was: "What sort of interference are you referring to here".

unfortunately I do not believe if someone who believe so strongly themselves, that even do not need to such strong associations like harvard,they share that original contexts or paper. this is illogical. I don't believe that any of intelligent people would do this. and remember please ,I believe you are clever. I think you understand.

 

 

Your version was totally ungrammatical.

oh my lovely friend ,could you see the previous comments above.

 

 

 

Until you are willing to admit that your English is very poor

I think you are a bit nervous today. really ,while I am accepting that my english is not advanced. I will never accept that it is very poor. (never mind)

 

I may provide only TOEFL score.

 

but you will be right as I said ,I have no suitable computer to write everything properly. I request you not to miss this detail , sometimes missing words or spelling faults may cause grammatical errors on its appearance.

It is interesting to an observer whether this gap in communication can be bridged . This is almost like hostage negotiations.

 

I am glad I am not in the front line

 

 

you cannot speak so!

he is one of my good friends. he is lovely!

 

:)

NOTICE : THIS POINT HAS BEEN MAİLED TO EDITOR.

 

What interference?

 

I used this word to define making some new changes on the treatment which is valid in process.

 

What interference?

 

Why not?

 

are you seeing you have made a grammatical incorrectness, the correct one should be:

 

"what is interference?" or more properly : "what is the interference's meaning which you implied there.?"

NOTICE :

 

I would inform that NPG's some journals might not accept only ABSTRACT part for submission. as CharonY said ,this journal might require to submit the whole of paper.

so ,could you return again the previous page to think one more time?

 

I had not read this journal's privacy or policy before submission.

okay. responding....

as you know , the cancer ilness is being treated via using radioactiwe waves.

the project would structure as in highly wide content for relevant part of cure.

 

furthermore ,the interference must have been via using some advanced mathematical contexts in functional analysis.

 

(note please these will show us in pure mathematics when we use this

 

 

Fn(x) : X → R ( dim X > 3 )

 

sample of Fn(x) = (x+ 2y +z²+ t****) / n

 

 

..

 

there exist some very special functional sequences in mathemettics soo, we would be able to take newest clues.

because this would be active application of pure mathematics.

unfortunately I cannot post there any part of actual paper ,and you are seeing a very little of analogy from paper now.

-the actual paper's (only) rudiment is >>20 page.

Notice : t**** parameter / variable may be changed with several other variables instead it (because of this, it marked with "****"

so , this will make reach us for not only 4D space, >3D would be more suitable.

if you implied that the correct one mus have been so ;

 

"Mathematical Interference For Cure Of Cancer Ilness And Research To Reach Newest Clues About >3D Space"

instead

 

"Mathematical Interference To Cure Of Cancer Ilness And Research To Reach Newest Clues About >3D Space"

 

then you will be right ,but I can't see another incorrectness just now.

 

In fact - just post it here so we can do it for you... I will warn you though - if you can not take any criticism then do not post it - people here will be honest and you might mistake that honesty for rudeness.

 

Good luck.

 

I definitely support taking criticism.

no problem or no discussion on this issue.

 

but there is a clear point about the exact maning at the background of this reply.

this was my first submission and normally sometimes I can't differentiate something even if they are familiar.

 

...

More specifically, they said they will not publish your manuscript because it does not meet their standards.

 

More specifically still, that is because it doesn't offer a good enough advance in general understanding.

 

Correct. They will not publish your manuscript.

 

you mean the second one.

 

ok?

They said they will not publish your manuscript.

 

only abstract was submitted , in this case ,may I ask to make more clarity, did you mean this one below;

 

--->> even if you submit every part of your this manuscript ,we will not publish it. (the second understanding in my first post which had been posted today)

 

?

REPLY

 

 

 

Dear ..

Thank you for submitting your manuscript "Mathematical Interference To Cure Of Cancer Ilness And Research To Reach Newest Clues About >3D Space" which we are regretfully unable to offer to publish.

It is Nature Physics' policy to return a substantial proportion of manuscripts without sending them to referees. Decisions of this kind are made by the editors of Nature Physics according to the demanding editorial criteria of the journal.

In the present case, while your findings may well prove stimulating to others' thinking about such questions, we regret that we are unable to conclude that the work provides the sort of firm advance in general understanding that would warrant publication in Nature Physics.

We are sorry that we cannot respond more positively on this occasion.

Regards,

Nature Physics

hi , actually I could not differentiate this e-mail about this two statement which they implied:

 

1) they did want me to submit the whole of manuscript (because of their policy)

2) they said : "we do not think that you might ensure advanced knowledge of physics or other related contexts" ?

Quantum physics is becoming really popular on TV and other media, mainly b/c it has the potential to offer so much, but in reality provides so little.

Sure, I can tediously calculate all the electrons on my computer screen, or explain why benzene is a stable ring due to its orbitals. But at the end of the day, these don't really save or help anyone or anything.

Yes, I'm aware of the things physics has given us such as the atom bomb, etc. However, once we start talking about string theory and 5th, 6th, and 7th dimensions and so on...why does this matter, and what does this do?

if you look at the most beneficial achievements to human kind in the last 100 yrs..it's been mostly in biology, chemistry, and engineering (including computer engineering). I don't see how understanding the spin of a quark is ever going to advance human kind.

 

(P.S. we will never approach the speed of light)

 

/end rant

 

~EE

 

as I understand ,you criticize the theoritic studies at the background of this text. I also critize this. but here is clearly important detail ,I think theoritic studies are not empty or valueless.

theoritic studies only need perspective approach.

CLOSED SESSION!

 

 

PLEASE DO NOT WRITE TO THIS THREAD FOR A WHILE

I REQUEST YOU TO REPORT ME ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF MY COMMENTS THAT YOU CONSIDER IT MIGHT BE UNETHIC ,VIA SENDING A MESSAGE IN PRIVATE (CHATTING MOD)

 

THANKS TO EVERYONE THERE UP TO NOW

 

REGARDS

 

blue89

 

 

I should also add that the comments I've seen you get in this forum are considerably more friendly and polite than some of the comments I've gotten and seen through the process of peer review.

 

 

 

 

ACCORDING TO MY OWN ETHICAL CONCEPT;

 

(THIS IS IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR ME . COULD YOU CLARIFY IT PLEASE VIA, CHOOSING WHICH ONE YOU IMPLIED BELOW (PLEASE CHOOSE ONLY ONE SENTENCE,DO NOT WRITE YOUR PERSONAL COMMENT)

 

 

1) almost all members think that you are less frıendly than you alleged

 

2) you are more friendly at real

ALL LAST COMMENTS ARE REISSUE !

 

I ALSO DO NOT WANT TO MAKE SOMEONES REPEAT AS SAME AS I DO NOT ENJOY SOMEONES MAKING ME REPEAT! (on such series issues)

CharonY ,you are right , but probably this will be the lowest rate of difficulty in comparison to events that I had lived ones

 

 

Yes the english level is not advanced ,I will try to be fussier.

 

many many thanks

1ST COMMENT

 

 

 

 

 

As I say, I am willing to edit a short extract from your abstract so you can see how much work it needs to be acceptable. (I might even say it is perfect as it is!)

 

I think that is a very positive idea.

 

1) HE SAY HE MIGT HELP ME .

NOTE: there was a technical matter , you are requested to read last comment before previous one.

2ND COMMEND

I agree, if you have submitted something then you should wait until you hear from them before doing anything. If they ask you to submit the complete paper, then you can do that. If they don't then you shouldn't.

As several people have suggested before, you really need to find someone who is fluent in English to help your write your paper.

 

Why not post the first two or three sentences of your abstract and I will edit them for you so you can get an idea of how much work is required. (I usually charge a lot of money for this!)

 

 

we also seem his request/ suggestion as a second time. but there is no evidenvce that Strange was doing this help free. (NOTE: I do not criticize this ,this is already Strange's right. of cours he will deserve,I don't discuss thi,s I only say that I do not prefer that suggstion. and thanks again)

 

THIS IS REPEATED EXPRESSION!

 

 

 

I do not think that it would be good idea if we share our literature which had not been published,sorry have been repeating this ,but I see someone doesn't understand this.

 

Remember please ,although I have been saying that I am INTELLIGENT, there is no literature published by me or project patented by me.I think no contradiction exists in my sentences. you may criticize me. but please do it as Klaynos did.

 

 

blue89

 

 

Strange required me to pay. I have implied that I had had no option to do this.

however ,I think this is Strange's right why anyone already will not be willing to do this free.

but I would remind you that I have had many many experiencs (relevant ethical issues.)

look ,was this my own wanting??

did I want/propose to Strange?

I am intelligent!

PLASE DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT SOMETHING ! (THIS IS REQUEST)

 

1)This makes me wonder if you understood the question. This is not a sane answer.

 

 

2)Then why not show us a sample of your carefully written abstract so we can see how well you have succeeded at this.

 

1) if I am correct relevant issue. I am afraid, this might prove/show us a bit weakness belonging you ,why every great scientist (like newton or tesla ...etc) would not refuse that it would be sane answer to accept our mistakes.why not?

 

2) I have already said this repeateadly that I have had ability to study individually/independently (this also had been reported to harvard/gsas!)

I am sure if there exist any matter ,al these will not bne relevant my inability. I have been exhausted to explain repeatedly ,I have no evconomic option. you don't know how difficult my life is.(and my computer's keyboard spoilt)

 

you will probably feel a bit nervous to hear this ,apologies ,I don't think it would be safe writing our ABSTRACT there (at least until one published sample ,nature has not acepted ,it only asked to submit,this is not acceptance)

but of course ,you seem right with one aspect .I had seen NPG - Translational psychiatry journal asked whether we had controlled our paper with our native english colleagues.

 

look what I had understood relevant to your red coloured sentence above.

 

 

 

I had understood ,that you would speak politely , your goal was not hurting me. you would say only I was doing some incorrectness.,and you asked me in the second part that whether I was confirming details

 

 

was it right?

oh ,I mixed Strange with Klaynos

 

 

could you assume Klaynos = Strange when you read my last comment?

Let's take this sentence. It is very poor English.

 

"I still think you are clever in comparison" is fine, but you need to replace "general ones" with "to most people", even "to general ones" is better. The lack of "to" makes it incorrect.

 

"But not do much friendly" is incorrect "but not as friendly" would improve matters significantly.

 

These are not even your worst sentences.

 

I'm not trying to offend you, but do you really only want to surround yourself with yes men?

 

sure!

 

this was almost the best critique in this forum I have ever seen on this issue. I may express many many faults/incorrectness everywhere but it will not make sense unless I provide any evidence for my allegemnts.

look ,yours include evidence (I did not check ,but if you are native english, of course it will.be right.

 

and I think almost all of such ones who criticizes me are missing a detail and it is just the statement that we will/must normally too fussier when we write manuscript than eveytime .

look ajb is native english. he had written over 12 paper.

but he advised me and said that he also himself did check the manuscript much before sebmission (he also said such incorectness might be normal (compare witrh the event given above : ajb's this expression is quite POSITIVE

I may clearly say I have felt delighted meeting ajb and studiot (especially studiot : seems enteratining & good)

anyway ,I think I will be able to extract linguistic incorrectness if I endeavor enough (by myself).

Thanks for your this more meaningful critique.