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  1. Please read the citations offered. The article reported the flora recovered from keyboards. Potential pathogens cultured from more than 50% of the computers included coagulase-negative staphylococci (100% of keyboards), diphtheroids (80%), Micrococcus species (72%), and Bacillus species (64%). Other pathogens cultured included ORSA (4% of keyboards), OSSA (4%), vancomycin-susceptible Enterococcus species (12%), and nonfermentative gram-negative rods (36%)
  2. Wish folks would offer some citations for their assertions https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/infection-control-and-hospital-epidemiology/article/abs/bacterial-contamination-of-keyboards-efficacy-and-functional-impact-of-disinfectants/E9D4608D350EDD23A16392434874445B
  3. Above tells you nothing of mode of action - merely its expression. Curious - is this in defense of an advanced degree?
  4. Continuation of current discussion https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-funded-scientist-among-three-chinese-researchers-who-fell-ill-amid-early-covid-19-outbreak-3f919567 Info largely based largely based personnel communications - leaked info. Release/declassifying of investigation will help understand issue and considerations of FBI and DOE - if it is released. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/biden-missed-deadline-declassifying-intel-origins-covid-19
  5. Wuhan lab scientists were the first to contract COVID-19: report https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/ijsem/10.1099/ijs.0.65021-0 https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/wuhan-lab-scientists-were-the-first-to-contract-covid-19-report/ar-AA1cvt1a vs. 2021 claim it was a wet market vendor and a WHO claim it was an accountant https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/19/first-covid-patient-in-wuhan-was-at-animal-market-study-finds
  6. Think a bit oversold at this point. "International group" may not be so correct. French lab examination of sequences posted to a public genomic database by Chinese researchers and subsequently removed. Seems others could reproduce findings but see nothing in literature yet. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-evidence-supports-animal-origin-of-covid-virus-through-raccoon-dogs WHO asked for the data, not aware it's been released/ https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/03/17/1164226694/who-calls-on-china-to-share-data-on-raccoon-dog-link-to-pandemic-heres-what-we-k But there is relevant previous (to above) discussion relevant to racoon dog association. https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abm4454
  7. China offers a new theory and vector for wet market source - "racoon dog' https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/new-covid-origins-data-suggests-pandemic-linked-animals-97936471
  8. Fauci said Saturday that a coronavirus lab leak could still be considered a "natural occurrence" if the definition of lab leak meant that someone was infected in the wild and went "into a lab," was studied in a lab, and then "came out of the lab." and "The other possibility is someone takes a virus from the environment that doesn't actually spread very well in humans, and manipulates it a bit, and accidentally it escapes or accidentally infects someone and then you get an outbreak, https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/dr-fauci-claims-a-coronavirus-lab-leak-could-still-be-considered-a-natural-occurrence/ar-AA18wSQD
  9. To CharonY's point, to the possibility of lab worker infection , esp. in context of alleged inadequate controls https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/u-s-intel-report-identified-3-wuhan-lab-researchers-who-n1268327
  10. declassification will help us understand FBI/DoE thinking https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/05/26/senate-unanimously-passes-hawley-bill-declassifying-intel-on-wuhan-lab/?sh=4e15e4f26844
  11. So what? Not aware the virus was not found in the wet market. Again FBI and DoE both cite the lab as the probably source.
  12. Both FBI and DoE reviews offered as probable the "lab leak" source based on their review. Please also recall Wuhan work was reportedly conducted in a BSL-2 lab - the limited contamination control standards used typically in micro 101 teaching labs.
  13. Microwave treatment can indeed kill bacteria tho' a brief exposure such as heating yogurt prob will not eliminate all viability. Be aware - microbial populations in commercial yogurts are unstable and decrease of viable counts are common to the point that claimed benefits are more hype than substance.
  14. Review - notes value in combined therapy - bacteriophage and antibiotic. Suggest folks remember their virology lab with bacteriophages and E. coli from sewage - the ease with which resistance was demonstrated
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