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#1 Mr Rayon 


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Is it true that if you are sleeping and you have a dream and if you die in that dream that you die in real life?
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#2 vordhosbn 


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Yes.

This post has been edited by vordhosbn: 29 December 2010 - 01:28 PM

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#3 CaptainPanic 


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 Voltman, on 29 December 2010 - 10:08 AM, said:

Is it true that if you are sleeping and you have a dream and if you die in that dream that you die in real life?

It is a fact that everyone dies in real life... eventually.
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#4 insane_alien 


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you don't die in real life if you die in a dream(although you will eventually die in the future but the cause will not be the dream). you've been watching too much matrix.
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#5 CaptainPanic 


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 Voltman, on 29 December 2010 - 10:08 AM, said:

Is it true that if you are sleeping and you have a dream and if you die in that dream that you die in real life?

Also, this is difficult to test, if your test subjects keep dying in their sleep, you lose your test subjects without ever getting a data point. :)
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#6 TonyMcC 


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What is needed is for someone to tell us he has died in a dream! That's not me: is it you?

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#7 Cap'n Refsmmat 


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I've died in a dream. Shot through the heart by someone in a tree outside my window. To the best of my knowledge, I'm still alive.
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#8 Marat 


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I have an indirect proof of the hypothesis: Last night I dreamt that I did NOT die and today I find that I am NOT dead.
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#9 User is online  ydoaPs 


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 Cap, on 29 December 2010 - 05:36 PM, said:

I've died in a dream. Shot through the heart by someone in a tree outside my window. To the best of my knowledge, I'm still alive.

I see dead people.
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#10 tomgwyther 


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A friend of mine died in real life, but dreamt she was alive.
(She was only dead for a minute or so but made a full recovery.)

What am I trying to say? What words will express it? What image or idiom will make it clearer? Is this image fresh enough to have an effect? Could I put it more shortly? Have I said anything that is avoidably ugly?

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#11 Mr Skeptic 


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I'm pretty sure that if you die in a dream you wake up from a nightmare. Perhaps not always though.

I guess if you have a really weak heart the fear from a nightmare might be enough to induce a heart attack, but other than that it doesn't seem like a dream could kill you. Or maybe if you dream that you're jumping off a bridge but in reality you're just sleepwalking.
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#12 DrmDoc 


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 Voltman, on 29 December 2010 - 10:08 AM, said:

Is it true that if you are sleeping and you have a dream and if you die in that dream that you die in real life?

No! To confirm that someone has died because of a dream, we would require some evidence, direct or indirect, as confirmation from the dreamer. After nearly four decades of general study, I have not reviewed any credible evidence of dreaming as a cause of death while sleep other than deaths due to injury while sleepwalking. During an earlier age of investigative ignorance on the causes of death, the myth of people dying because of a dream likely got its start as an explanation for deaths occurring amid sleep without any outward sign of injury.

Dreams are how our brain synthesize or interpret activations in the brainstem that occur amid sleep. These activations are a result of vestigial metabolic neural processes associated with prolonged periods of physical inactivity. The memories we have of dreaming form as the sleeping brain arouses to wakeful levels of activity. Those memories are how our waking brain interprets what it believes it experienced as a result of the activation in the brainstem occurring during the sleep process.

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#13 divagreen 


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I died in a dream once, too.

Not only did I die in my dream (I was murdered), but I came back to haunt my assailant as a ghost.

So that myth was debunked at twenty-three for me.
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#14 Mrs Zeta 


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In some cultures, dreaming that you are dead is a sign of good fortune.
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#15 rigney 


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If life itself is only a dream, why should a spiritual world be any different? Awake, we fantasize materially. The dream world we sometimes live in at night, can't set us free of that.
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#16 Twinbird24 


Lepton
I've been stabbed in a dream once, and fallen off high places, I just wake up right after.
I seem to always get reminded of Inception now every time someone mentions dreams.
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#17 Xittenn 


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But does it still hold if you die in a dream and are spiritually released as a soul? Would the soul not then have to die as well? I've had a mix of dreams some involving my death. Some I have woken up before death, one I was left immobile in a dessert as a spirit for 50 years. Most often my death in a dream causes me to time shift because in my dreams I am a network of individuals that are linked over a span of thousands of years. Only once have I died and only faded to black, I was shot not unlike Cap' and I am still here.
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#18 TonyMcC 


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 ydoaPs, on 29 December 2010 - 05:50 PM, said:

I see dead people.


In my dreams I often "see" people that I have known and who have died. In my dreams they are alive and I enjoy meeting them. I don't know that they are dead. I take this as quite a natural thing as all generations in my family older than me are dead. However I don't see corpses thank goodness.

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#19 a p f e l b l u m e n 


Lepton

 Voltman, on 29 December 2010 - 10:08 AM, said:

Is it true that if you are sleeping and you have a dream and if you die in that dream that you die in real life?


no this is not true. even if it were, there is simply no evidence to support that theory.

however, many people believe dreams and nightmares can be interpreted as messages from our subconscious. for example, having reoccurring dreams about yourself dying could relate to a phobia of death that you have in waking life.
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#20 Fryja 


Lepton

 Voltman, on 29 December 2010 - 10:08 AM, said:

Is it true that if you are sleeping and you have a dream and if you die in that dream that you die in real life?


I am brand new here, so forgive my incredulity, but aren't we all going to die in real life?
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