A few conclusions regarding Wave and Particle forms

[Killrog]

Hey all I'm not a scientist just a fan that reads and tries to understand / come up with own theories, please feel free to correct anything you know to be totally wrong (proven wrong). Please do not say it cannot be "Just Because"

 

 

Recently I've been thinking about quantum particles. How they spin in many directions simultaneously, but when we "observe" them they act normal.

Now from what I understand in order for mass to have mass the Higgs Boson particle must be incorporated into the matter in order for it to interact with the Boson field. However particlesthat make up the proton do not interact with the filed due to them not having the Higgs Boson in them. Doesn't this mean that particles are not obeying the laws of time? And therefore can be doing many things all simultaneously but not at the same "Time" because to these particles time doesn't exist.

However when we take a snapshot of them we see them behave as if "time" is applied to them and we take a snap shot of "NOW".

So particles can do many things are once because they arent obeying time, would this be a good conclusion?

Also regarding Light behaving as a particle and a wave, could it be that when we take a picture we slow down that particle enough for it to be affected by time, but when we let it go unhindered it is "Timeless" and "stretches" into wave form?

This wave form would have all the properties of the certain particle we are viewing but just looks stretched because time no longer affects it?
So when a particle becomes a wave it goes down one dimension to 2 dimension, it no longer floats on the 3rd dimension of time, and stretches into a 2 dimensional wave.

Lastly Black Holes, they seem to strip the information of "Time" from matter and "stretch" it into 2 dimensions. The information of time would be stuck around the black hole (got this from Leonard Susskind) as matter inside the black hole is transformed into its 2 dimensional state.
I believe simply black holes are areas that repel time and store matter in its 2 dimensional state until it radiates out and "maybe" gets its "time" information back and reintegrates with regular time as Hawking Radiation.

[swansont]

Doesn't this mean that particles are not obeying the laws of time? And therefore can be doing many things all simultaneously but not at the same "Time" because to these particles time doesn't exist.

 

We use atoms' quantum states to tell time, so I don't see how you would make this idea of yours mesh with with that reality.

[Killrog]

 

We use atoms' quantum states to tell time, so I don't see how you would make this idea of yours mesh with with that reality.

Hold on a second, you said atoms, Im talking particles. Atoms behave according to normal physics. or am i misunderstanding something here?

[swansont]

Hold on a second, you said atoms, Im talking particles. Atoms behave according to normal physics. or am i misunderstanding something here?

 

Internal states of atoms obey quantum mechanics; it's basically the behavior of an electron in a potential well. Even atoms as a whole obey QM (i.e. not follow classical physics), under the right circumstances — you can make atoms diffract and interfere.

[Strange]

Now from what I understand in order for mass to have mass the Higgs Boson particle must be incorporated into the matter in order for it to interact with the Boson field.

 

That isn't the case. The particles which get their mass from the Higgs mechanism are primarily the W and Z bosons (and the Higgs, itself). These are fundamental particles and so do not contain a Higgs particle.

 

However particlesthat make up the proton do not interact with the filed due to them not having the Higgs Boson in them. Doesn't this mean that particles are not obeying the laws of time?

 

No particles have the Higgs boson in them All particles "obey the laws of time" (whatever that means). This is so wrong, it is hard to say beside "just because"

 

And therefore can be doing many things all simultaneously but not at the same "Time" because to these particles time doesn't exist.

We know that neutrons, for example, decay after a certain amount of time. So time obviously exists for them.

 

 

Also regarding Light behaving as a particle and a wave, could it be that when we take a picture we slow down that particle enough for it to be affected by time, but when we let it go unhindered it is "Timeless" and "stretches" into wave form?

No. It just has some properties that we normally associate with waves (e.g. frequency) and some properties that we normally associate with particles (e.g. being quantised).

 

 

Lastly Black Holes, they seem to strip the information of "Time" from matter and "stretch" it into 2 dimensions.

 

Do they?

[Killrog]

Oh yeah like this:

http://www.livescience.com/19268-quantum-double-slit-experiment-largest-molecules.html

 

Yeah i just read up on that hmmm, I still dont like this "state of uncertainty" feels like a cop out to explain something that doesn't make sense intuitively. I'll have to think into this some more.

 

Ok how about this theory that wave form is somehow unaffected by time, and stretches across time. Not sure why but it almost seems like waves are 2 dimensional representations of particles.

[swansont]

Oh yeah like this:

http://www.livescience.com/19268-quantum-double-slit-experiment-largest-molecules.html

 

Yeah i just read up on that hmmm, I still dont like this "state of uncertainty" feels like a cop out to explain something that doesn't make sense intuitively. I'll have to think into this some more.

 

Quantum mechanics is rarely viewed as intuitive by those unfamiliar with it. But it fits with experiment, in areas where classical physics does not.