NavajoEverclear Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Ch and J obviously sound different somehow, but when i say them i cant figure out what my tounge is doing differently. I wanted to know cause i'm making a language, and i want to know the base of the sounds. Also, what are some other sounds not used in the english language? OK i guess that is a huge range of possibilities, any good sites that document these possibilites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavajoEverclear Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 Ba and Ma & Ta and Da, have the same dilemna. They SOUND different, but i cant feel the difference. It's kind of frustrating not to understand how my own communication system works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 They all have slightly different tongue positions associated with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Ch and J obviously sound different somehow, but when i say them i cant figure out what my tounge is doing differently. I wanted to know cause i'm making a language, and i want to know the base of the sounds. Also, what are some other sounds not used in the english language? OK i guess that is a huge range of possibilities, any good sites that document these possibilites? If your going to make a language base it on something like esperanto, but please dont make another stupid language like english... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavajoEverclear Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 whats esperanto? I do agree that english is much in stupidity. So what about my question eh? ANSWER IT SOMEONE, or i'll send you to blorch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 whats esperanto? I do agree that english is much in stupidity. So what about my question eh? ANSWER IT SOMEONE, or i'll send you to blorch An international language, very well thought out with little grammatical problems and rules that are the same fro every single word.Like for example all nouns in esperanto end in "o". Heres a site:http://esperanto.ca/kurso/home.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavajoEverclear Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 thanks dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 whats esperanto? I do agree that english is much in stupidity. So what about my question eh? ANSWER IT SOMEONE, or i'll send you to blorch your question about Ch and J? there does not need to be any difference in tongue or lip positions in phonetics there is a difference between "voiced" and "unvoiced" consonants and between "aspirated" and "unaspirated" consonants to make Tee and Dee you can use the same tongue position, but you must vibrate the vocal chords in your throat to make it a Dee Dee is the "voiced" version of Tee Also between Ch and J----like between Church and Judge the J is the "voiced" version of the Ch when you say Judge your vocal chords must already be vibrating at the start of the word but with Church you wait---no vibration at first---and the throat only starts when you make the vowell sound "ur" Between B and P the difference is "aspiration"----how much air you blow out while your lips are doing essentially the same thing P is the "aspirated" version of B -------------- so moral of story, everclear, is that tongue and lip positions arent the whole story----it was a "systematic" question: sign of an orderly mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 thanks dude Welcome, we must all spread the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavajoEverclear Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 Welcome, we must all spread the word. totally. Thanks a ton for the info Martin, its so obvious now i feel kinda dumb. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 so moral of story, everclear, is that tongue and lip positions arent the whole story----it was a "systematic" question: sign of an orderly mind? Very well put explanation, Martin. Some people have a way with words, and others... not have way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Very well put explanation, Martin. Some people have a way with words, and others... not have way. Wow, how do you think of these offhand jokes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Wow, how do you think of these offhand jokes?That one's not mine. That's vintage Steve Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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