AtomicMX Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Is it true that 1 zip of "etilenglycol" can kill you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I dont know that but I know that one sip of arsenic can kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicMX Posted June 14, 2004 Author Share Posted June 14, 2004 this etilengycol is antifreezer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I know what it is I meant I didnt know that a sip would kill you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgerlica Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 The lethal dose for a human is ~2 ounces. causes renal failure, nasty stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgerlica Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 oh yeah, on a side note, they actually used ethylene glycol as a solvent for sulfa based medications in the 30's. And they say the FDA is a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J'Dona Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Isn't that molecule just called ethane-1,2-diol? Or is etilenglycol the nonstandard name? I don't remember anything about it being extremely toxic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgerlica Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Ethylene glycol itself is non toxic. However, it is metabolised by alcohol dehydrogenase, forming glycoaldehyde, glycolate, glycolic acid, and glyoxylate. These four breakdown products are responsible for the tissue destruction (from calcium oxalate crystals) and metabolic toxicity (high anion gap metabolic acidosis, lactic acidosis, and hypocalcemia). Thank you, and good bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicMX Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 Thank you very much Jgerlica... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgerlica Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 My God, someone thanked me...... That's a first. No problem man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 more info on this compound: http://www.state.nj.us/health/eoh/rtkweb/0878.pdf search for it here: http://chemfinder.cambridgesoft.com i would link you directly, but the page is called result.asp so it wouldn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgerlica Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Isn't that molecule just called ethane-1,2-diol? Or is etilenglycol the nonstandard name? I don't remember anything about it being extremely toxic... Or:1,2-dihydroxyethane, 1,2-ethanediol, EG, ethane-1,2-diol, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicMX Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 As far as i remmember is the common antifreezer, people say that it tastes sweet... if i poison a person with coffee (strong flavor) and sugar melted with ethanediol does medics or criminalistics would know about it?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicMX Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 thanks to you too budullewraagh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgerlica Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 As far as i remmember is the common antifreezer' date=' people say that it tastes sweet...if i poison a person with coffee (strong flavor) and sugar melted with ethanediol does medics or criminalistics would know about it?...[/quote'] Yes. Just buy a cheap piece from your local crackhead and do them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budullewraagh Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 if i poison a person with coffee (strong flavor) and sugar melted with ethanediol does medics or criminalistics would know about it?... eh, what are you implying? the answer is that yes, forensics investigators would be able to find out through qualitative tests: soluble in H2O, soluble in ethers, does not effect litmus->alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATCC-6538 Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 oh yeah, on a side note, they actually used ethylene glycol as a solvent for sulfa based medications in the 30's. And they say the FDA is a bad thing. Kdaj si pa ti nazadnje govoril slovensko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 /\ | That is why I wanted an international forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apathy Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Forensics would also find the calcium oxalate crystals in the victim's kidneys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgerlica Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Odpustiti svoj stiska od gladkost. Jaz hoteti šele slišati se angleški zdaj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 on ne ponimajem, opjat skazal po-angliski, pozhalusta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apathy Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 what language is that? czech? hungarian? o wait, russian, but with western letters? belarussian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiral_ju00 Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 I dont know that but I know that one sip of arsenic can kill you. Wrong on so many levels. By the way, making arsenic beverage ( ) as a part of your regular diet, and as long as the doses remain the same from day to day, eventually you'll build up a tolerance to it. Any change in quantity(days or amounts) will severely skew the system and screw you, but one can get quite a large amount of arsenic into their body before it'll kill them. Also, even accumulating a large amounts of arsenic in the body, with proper medical attention, you can recover(well, nearly so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgerlica Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 slovenian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryan Posted June 19, 2004 Share Posted June 19, 2004 Any change in quantity(days or amounts) will severely skew the system and screw you, but one can get quite a large amount of arsenic into their body before it'll kill them. Does that mean a decrease in arsenic will kill you? On a side note, does anyone know what "Propylene Glycol" is? I keep seeing it listed as an ingredient of shampoo and bathroom products. I have a strange feeling that I'm putting something similar to antifreeze on my head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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