Baub Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 As I have grown older, and hopefully wiser, I have developed a feeling of being more connected to the things around me. The killing of a spider or an ant, now feels damaging to myself. The last time I had to cut down a tree, I felt as if I had changed a part of something beyond that tree. Something beyond my knowledge. I have wondered if all things in the universe are not somehow linked. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't all things on earth spring from the same(original)matter and energy? Therfore, am I not just as connected to the first rock as I am to the first human? Am I alone in this sense of a giant collective ONE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 You are indeed connected to a rock. So are the other rocks; in exactly the same way and to the same extent. The difference is you can worry about it- but that doesn't mean you have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baub Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share Posted March 3, 2009 You are indeed connected to a rock. So are the other rocks; in exactly the same way and to the same extent.The difference is you can worry about it- but that doesn't mean you have to. I don't think I truly worry about it. It does, however, make me wonder if this is where man's ideas of gods and reincarnation stem from. It also makes me stop and think before squashing a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john5746 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html I think altered states of consciousness, whether through brain damage, seizures, chemicals or meditation do have something to do with spiritual beliefs. I don't think I truly worry about it. It does, however, make me wonder if this is where man's ideas of gods and reincarnation stem from. It also makes me stop and think before squashing a bug. That's fine, but I would still recommend treating for termites and ants. I also wouldn't rule out antibiotics for those pesky bacteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrburns2012 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I think altered states of consciousness, whether through brain damage, seizures, chemicals or meditation do have something to do with spiritual beliefs. That's fine, but I would still recommend treating for termites and ants. I also wouldn't rule out antibiotics for those pesky bacteria. That's a very interesting video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baub Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html I think altered states of consciousness, whether through brain damage, seizures, chemicals or meditation do have something to do with spiritual beliefs. That's fine, but I would still recommend treating for termites and ants. I also wouldn't rule out antibiotics for those pesky bacteria. Thanks for the link. What an amazing experience she is able to share. Vivid example of of your statement regarding altered states of consciousness. I am curious what her level of spirituality was like before her stroke. I think it is a healthy thing, regardless of the catalyst, to wonder about our existence....to question what we are. I don't plan on turning my life over too nature anytime soon; still going to take antibiotics and kill termites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john5746 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I think it is a healthy thing, regardless of the catalyst, to wonder about our existence....to question what we are. I agree completely. I should add that I do not mean to imply that spirituality requires any altered state, just that maybe some memes are possibly started that way and they are not necessarily a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baub Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 I agree completely. I should add that I do not mean to imply that spirituality requires any altered state, just that maybe some memes are possibly started that way and they are not necessarily a bad thing. Absolutely. Many of history's "enlightened" figures developed/explored spirituality via intoxicants,fasting, sweat lodges, sleep deprivation, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Skeptic Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 You are in the same universe as all matter and governed by the same laws of physics. All the stuff on earth was made from more or less the same stuff. All life descended from a common ancestor. Other than that, I can't think of a deeper connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baub Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 You are in the same universe as all matter and governed by the same laws of physics. All the stuff on earth was made from more or less the same stuff. All life descended from a common ancestor. Other than that, I can't think of a deeper connection. Yes, exactly what I have been bouncing around in my head. What is amazing to me, is that it has taken 43 years for me to grasp what should be a fundamental premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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