bascule Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 http://www.rove.com/election And in other news, http://FiveThirtyEight.com is now showing Obama's chances of victory at 98.1% I think it's all wrapped up at this point... Obama is the next President of the United States Hooray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 That's in line with the projections made at the round table yesterday on THIS WEEK with George Stephanopoulis. I won't starting counting chickens until eggs have hatched, though, not that I don't share your optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvp45 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I hope you're right, but I have to say I feel sorry for the poor guy. The auto sales figures for October just came across and it's the pits! By January we'll be in a deep recession and I'm fearful there's not much a president can do except try to provide a safety net for those of us who fall off the cliff while we're waiting for the economy to improve. Oh, wait - we could try cooperating with the rest of the world. Although I have to hope President Obama proves as steadfast, unswerving, and efficient in his administration as Candidate Obama has been. I think this week so far I've heard from the Senator, Michelle, Bill Clinton, Hillary, Ed Rendell, and Dan Rooney (president of the Steelers); I've got a car magnet, sixteen e-mail thank you's, a chance to win a ticket to Chicago, and an offer to buy a T-shirt. And, it's only Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riogho Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 We all know how good Karl Rove is at doing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bascule Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 We all know how good Karl Rove is at doing stuff. Was that a serious comment or are you being sarcastic? If it's the latter, I'm curious as to why you think that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangloss Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I think it's in the bag as well. I hope it is -- we don't need another close, contested election. The state to watch tomorrow is Pennsylvania. That would nullify Obama "gains" (over Bush 2004) in half a dozen states and make the contest fairly close. That's why McCain put so much of his focus there late in the campaign. Incidentally, McCain wrapped up his campaign in Prescott, Arizona. There's historical context to that, but it happens to be the same place that Goldwater wrapped in '64. Not a good choice, lol. line[/hr] Incidentally, I think it would be cool if we all dipped our fingers in purple ink at the polls this year, in solidarity with our Iraqi friends. Wouldn't that be cool? Too late now, I guess. Wish I'd thought of it months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bascule Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 The state to watch tomorrow is Pennsylvania. I guess. Obama has an 8 point lead in the polls there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangloss Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Right, but you'd expect that because it went for Kerry in 2004. It's really the only high-pop state where McCain has seen any sign of a reversal trend, which is why he spent so much time there, but as you say the polls suggest that that effort fell well short (whereas Obama has swung nearly all the swing states in the polls, plus a lot that nobody would have expected to swing given their 2004 votes). The point being if PA doesn't fall in that first hour nothing else really matters, and you can go to bed early. Another thing to observe, albeit for more academic reasons, is vote totals. 120 million people voted in 2004 (a record), but predictions run in the 145+ range. As happened in 2004, the loser could get more votes than the winner in the previous election (even if it's not all that close in the electoral college). Many states have warned voters that lines could go past 3 am Wednesday (the polls close at 7 in most states, but if you're in line at that time they have to let you vote). In particular this might happen in areas dominated by African American voters, who typically vote less frequently, and therefore polls typically have fewer machines (1/400+ voters instead of the typical 1/200 in white areas). (The numbers in the last two paragraphs are from ABC News tonight.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riogho Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 It's also raining in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and North Carolina. That tends to make a less higher turnout among the low-income voters (usually Obama). But I seriously doubt this will be close electorally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangloss Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I don't think the weather's going to matter a whole lot this year. Especially not with 25% of the country having already voted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Turns out it went 338 to 163. Where did those other 37 electoral votes Rove spoke about go? He said 338 to 200. [ATTACH]1966[/ATTACH] (from CNN) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npts2020 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 They stole them and hid them up their sleeve for next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riogho Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Georgia Missouri and North Carolina are still undecided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bascule Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 There's still an outstanding electoral vote in Nebraska that might go to Obama Crazy to see Indiana go for Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I figured as much, just didn't know which states. Thanks, Riogho and Bascule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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