Guest zagen Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Do you want to Live Forever? Yes, it's a joke webpage, you've probably heard of it a long time ago, and it's a far fetched Idea, but is it possible? Has anyone read much or know much about the theories of cells dying? The "celular clock" theory has been around, but I dont think it's highly regarded. Is it all about the heart weakening or other things malfunctioning? Why does this happen? just because of cellular breakdown, clogged aurteries, and sudden weakness of the heart muscle? Are there many studies being done, and if so what are the theories? I don't mean is it just possible for this guy's idea to work, but is it actually theoretically possible to live forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Not possible. Magnets have no affect on humans except the placebo effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Hmmm.. not entirely true. fixed magnets commercialy available that they sell as "heal everything" jobbies are as cap says, placebo effect. however magnetic feilds esp at osscilation can be devastating biologicaly in the EM sense. and they effect us passively too, else MRI scans wouldn`t work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Don't call me "cap"! MRIs don't affect us much, they are scanning to see inside us. So they don't really affect us (unless your credit card is in your pocket! goodbye credit card!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gampin Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I thought life ends because the shortening of telomeres results in taking away of our essential alleles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demosthenes- Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I think reptiles only grow larger as they age, they don't get older like mamals. Thats way some turtles can live for hundreds of years. Why can't people be that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 One of the primary causes of aging in the erosion of the telomeres into functional genes. Every time DNA is copied, a little bit at the very end is lost in the region called the telomere. Telomerase in the enzyme that repairs these, but eventually its levels decline and parts of functional genes get cut off. If we could increase the telemerase levels, we could easily extend life by a few decades; it's been done in rats resulting in 3x the normal life span. Granted this is not forever, but its a step towards it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 EinsteinTheory said in post # :I think reptiles only grow larger as they age, they don't get older like mamals. Thats way some turtles can live for hundreds of years. Why can't people be that way? Turtles don't do very much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 They do get old, they just have a good lifestyle. Just slowly strolling around, munching on some grass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demosthenes- Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I think I read that some reptiles are born mature, and only grow larger. The never age, or mature normal. The only change they go through life is that they get bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 And then die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demosthenes- Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Everything dies eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iglak Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 EinsteinTheory said in post # :Everything dies eventually. ... unless nothing kills it, including itself and aging by loss of telomeres. i heard that trees don't have telomeres, and they don't need them somehow. this would likely mean that some outside influence has to kill them, and would explain the rare, but very real 5,000 year old trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 That would explain it. Something gets to them eventually, like fungus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demosthenes- Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 So if we could keep a tree in a steralized place it would live forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 And you gave it nutrients, I suppose so. But who would spend the time to find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demosthenes- Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 Look at reply #7 "Every time DNA is copied, a little bit at the very end is lost in the region called the telomere." Won't that happen?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arenageth Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 Hi i may be new here and i hope you dont mind me posting this. But i read that there is a part in the DNA that when isolated and taken out can stop the aging prosses. But im a little sceptial as most people would be but then i remember that there is a gene in our body that is a A.K.A selfdestruct gene that can triger tumas. so i fugure its possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 You won't live forever unless you can cure every disease and injury known to mankind. That is the major problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainMan Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 however magnetic feilds esp at osscilation can be devastating biologicaly in the EM sense. Transcrainial magnetic stimulation can do all sorts of strange things to a person's mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demosthenes- Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 again: Look at reply #7 "Every time DNA is copied, a little bit at the very end is lost in the region called the telomere." Won't that happen?? Huh??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeoxyriboNucleicAcid Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 I assume you mean in trees, well Im not quite sure. But anyway, I have heard that humans have many many "waste" or extra genes. So if we increased the amount of extra genes in DNA, we could extend the amount of time it takes for the DNA to ware down when undergoing mitosis, and possibly live longer??? This may sound crazy, please correct me if I am wrong, ad forgive me if this is obserd, I dont take AP bio till next year :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demosthenes- Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 You can't just change someones DNA, can you? If you did wouldn't you have to do it to the single cell that they were before they were born? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Make a virus that constantly invades their cells and modifies the DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. DNA Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 DeoxyriboNucleicAcid said in post #:I assume you mean in trees, well Im not quite sure. But anyway, I have heard that humans have many many "waste" or extra genes. So if we increased the amount of extra genes in DNA, we could extend the amount of time it takes for the DNA to ware down when undergoing mitosis, and possibly live longer???This may sound crazy, please correct me if I am wrong, ad forgive me if this is obserd, I dont take AP bio till next year :-D I don't think that would work. Extra DNA can cause problems. For instance, Down's syndrone is caused by an extra copy of chromosome 21. Even if you're just adding "waste" DNA, it could still affect regulation of functioning genes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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