3 hours ago, pinball1970 said:

Scientists know an awful lot about the brain and how the mind works. The fact they do not know everything does not mean you have to stick a god in there. Those gaps are getting smaller you know.

I think, before writing "a god", you had to try to find God, not even a year, not even 5 years. Did you try? I think one needs to walk through that desert before some realization.  Because you write some clichés and I don't believe you. It looks like people put some stuff in your head and you believe it. There is no more personal relationship than between man and God. Also, I don't believe when people say "God loves you". Yeah..loves. And it takes a long time to understand that yes, actually everything is Love and only Love.

4 hours ago, pinball1970 said:

For you maybe. Not having a god to thank for things has not entered my head for over 30 years.

And who do you thank? People? But people can do nothing without God.

Edited August 17Aug 17 by m_m

4 hours ago, m_m said:

But scientists don't know what the mind and awareness are, and what they are for.

We know enough to spot someone in deep denial.

4 hours ago, m_m said:

It's really sad that you write this.

Sad because he feels less gullible? It seems pretty joyous to me. Giving credit for good things to a deity is demeaning to me. If something bad or good happens to me, the credit or blame is mine. I try not to hide from reality.

23 minutes ago, m_m said:

Because you write some clichés and I don't believe you.

You appear to think you know me.

7 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

Sad because he feels less gullible? It seems pretty joyous to me. Giving credit for good things to a deity is demeaning to me. If something bad or good happens to me, the credit or blame is mine. I try not to hide from reality.

Less gullible? On the contrary, he believes what people tell him. What about personal experience?

10 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

Giving credit for good things to a deity is demeaning to me. If something bad or good happens to me, the credit or blame is mine. I try not to hide from reality.

Demeaning to your ego. And if you believed, you would complain on God? The thing is, we have to be grateful for everything, not only "good" things, but also "bad".

Anyway, I don't want to preach.

7 minutes ago, pinball1970 said:

You appear to think you know me.

Not at all, you just write what I read everywhere.

Edited August 17Aug 17 by m_m

13 minutes ago, m_m said:

Anyway, I don't want to preach.

And yet you do it anyway

9 minutes ago, swansont said:

And yet you do it anyway

I apologize for this.

51 minutes ago, m_m said:

Less gullible? On the contrary, he believes what people tell him. What about personal experience?

This statement, bolded by me, seems extremely hypocritical.

14 minutes ago, m_m said:

Not at all, you just write what I read everywhere.

You read that god plays no part in the lives of atheists a lot? That is because we reject the notion of a god, this is not difficult.

Other than that we all have different likes, dislikes, politics, sexuality, views on morality, ethics, feminism, LGBTQ+ community, cancer, animals, veganism, Putin, WW3, climate change, Trump, Stalin, ABBA and the Beatles.

One thing is clear, you have absolutely no idea what my education or experience is regarding religion or my moving away from it.

1 hour ago, m_m said:

On the contrary, he believes what people tell him

Probably best you stop that, pretending you know someone then making idiotic comments about them.

30 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

This statement, bolded by me, seems extremely hypocritical.

Why?

6 minutes ago, pinball1970 said:

One thing is clear, you have absolutely no idea what my education or experience is regarding religion or my moving away from it.

I wrote that I didn't believe your words. And I assume I have a right not to believe. Because your words are similar to other people's words. What should I think?

8 minutes ago, pinball1970 said:

Probably best you stop that, pretending you know someone then making idiotic comments about them.

Good offense is the best defense? I only read what you write, that's all.

23 minutes ago, m_m said:

I wrote that I didn't believe your words.

Which words? be specific.

Edited August 17Aug 17 by pinball1970
Punctuation?

4 minutes ago, pinball1970 said:

Which words? be specific.

Here.

6 hours ago, pinball1970 said:

Scientists know an awful lot about the brain and how the mind works. The fact they do not know everything does not mean you have to stick a god in there. Those gaps are getting smaller you know.

the brain ≠ the mind.

11 minutes ago, m_m said:

Here.

the brain ≠ the mind.

So you think, neuroscientists, neurosurgeons, biochemists, nerve and endocrine physiologists, pharmacologists, psychiatrists and general practitioners know nothing regarding the brain?

Of course the mind is a product of the brain, what else would it be associated with?

17 minutes ago, m_m said:

the brain ≠ the mind.

You clearly know nothing about brain injuries or pathologies. You damage the brain, you damage the mind.

There is nothing mysterious about it, it is an organ with biological function like the liver.