When do you think NASA or the provide sector will send human to the moon and Mars?

I thought space X said some thing about sending human to Mars in year 2030. And I thought NASA said some thing about sending people moon by the year 2027/2028.

1 hour ago, Moon99 said:

When do you think NASA or the provide sector will send human to the moon and Mars?

I thought space X said some thing about sending human to Mars in year 2030. And I thought NASA said some thing about sending people moon by the year 2027/2028.

From what I’ve read, SpaceX is using an approach that doesn’t scale up to what’s needed to get beyond LEO, and Musk is long on promises but short on execution (he’s been promising self-driving in his cars is just a year away for the last ~9 years)

Trump is gutting NASA, so I don’t think any plans made before this year are going to hold up.

1 hour ago, Moon99 said:

When do you think NASA or the provide sector will send human to the moon and Mars?

I thought space X said some thing about sending human to Mars in year 2030. And I thought NASA said some thing about sending people moon by the year 2027/2028.

I think it will likely be cooperative

3 hours ago, Moon99 said:

When do you think NASA or the provide sector will send human to the moon and Mars?

NASA, moon, 1969.

The PRIVATE sector, non-government actors looking to make a profit on the exploration of space, need to be stopped, imo. They want to tap into our pioneering spirit to exploit the rest of the universe. If we want to avoid all the terrible offplanet evil empire stories, we need better control than we have over the private sector on Earth before we allow them access to the wealth and destructive capacity of the solar system. Let's cure our own thoughtlessness before we allow trillionaires to park asteroids in orbit or establish colonies on other planets/moons.

The moon? I think we will see crewed missions within a decade overseen by NASA - because the goal is known to be achievable and already has US Congressional support, with contracts to provide different elements already approved.

Private sector (not Provide sector)? Taxpayer funding is the source of all private sector profitability; without it there won't be moon missions. The moon isn't a cash cow waiting to be milked, it is taxpayers that are the cash cow, and no shortage of milkmaids for that. (Same breed of cow as jumped over the moon?).

Is it a private enterprise activity when it depends on public funding? Arguably yes (like building fire engines can be) but it isn't market based free enterprise. When the most cited commercial opportunity is imaginary demand for He-3 from imaginary fusion reactors that is a red flag, not a green light.

Mars? Not convinced that will happen at all, but it seems possible, barely. Nothing there is worth what it will cost to send astronauts and exploration is much better done remote robotically but that hasn't damped the popular optimism around it. Which just says to me the optimism is based on the imaginary, not on well thought business plans.

Edited May 27May 27 by Ken Fabian

Don’t know about China, India or Europe if they will get there before NASA does.

But China, India and Europe wants to go to Moon and later on Mars. Yes even Japan has talk about going to Moon. Not sure on their dates when they will go there.

I hear Trump is all about tax cuts to government programs and NASA.

On 5/26/2025 at 5:03 PM, swansont said:

From what I’ve read, SpaceX is using an approach that doesn’t scale up to what’s needed to get beyond LEO

Details:

https://www.planetearthandbeyond.co/p/starship-was-doomed-from-the-beginning

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https://www.planetearthandbeyond.co/p/starship-dead-end

“SpaceX still has a long way to go before Starship becomes a viable launch vehicle. It still has to successfully land the upper stage, reuse an upper stage, reach orbit, deliver a payload to orbit, reach a useable payload capacity, conduct a cryogenic fuel transfer between two starships in space (which has never been done before), perform a successful long-duration flight test, conduct a successful uncrewed lunar landing and conduct a crewed lunar landing. All of which, for context, was meant to be achieved by January 2025!”