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The following text is an excerpt from my website. You can follow the link (which the moderators removed) to read my views on spirituality, existence, and science.

Concerning Christianity, I propose that its adherents covertly believe that “Jesus” resides on Earth and that, upon His death, all existence shall cease and recommence with Him as a young boy. I conjecture that most inhabitants of Earth harbor this notion—that God incarnate dwells among us—yet refrain from acknowledging it. The Christian conviction that He shall resurrect the dead and usher in a new Heaven and Earth speaks unequivocally, in my estimation. I ponder why contemporary society has not exalted an obscure living man to the status of God incarnate, a practice seemingly prevalent in antiquity. In the present day, a man exhibiting a messianic disposition is deemed mentally unsound; yet, for reasons that remain obscure, Christians do not apply this judgment to Jesus. I surmise that Christianity’s magnitude renders it impervious to scrutiny, and individuals recoil from the prospect of being perceived as irrational for asserting that “Jesus” walks the Earth. Thus, there lies a collective refuge in attributing such divinity to the figure delineated in the sacred text provided by God.

            I perceive an irony in 2 Peter 1:16 as it pertains to our era, which declares: “For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty.” Likewise, I find Matthew 16:28 both ironic and pertinent, which states: “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

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5 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

The following text is an excerpt from my website. You can follow the link [link deleted] to read my views on spirituality, existence, and science.

Concerning Christianity, I propose that its adherents covertly believe that “Jesus” resides on Earth and that, upon His death, all existence shall cease and recommence with Him as a young boy. I conjecture that most inhabitants of Earth harbor this notion—that God incarnate dwells among us—yet refrain from acknowledging it. The Christian conviction that He shall resurrect the dead and usher in a new Heaven and Earth speaks unequivocally, in my estimation. I ponder why contemporary society has not exalted an obscure living man to the status of God incarnate, a practice seemingly prevalent in antiquity. In the present day, a man exhibiting a messianic disposition is deemed mentally unsound; yet, for reasons that remain obscure, Christians do not apply this judgment to Jesus. I surmise that Christianity’s magnitude renders it impervious to scrutiny, and individuals recoil from the prospect of being perceived as irrational for asserting that “Jesus” walks the Earth. Thus, there lies a collective refuge in attributing such divinity to the figure delineated in the sacred text provided by God.

            I perceive an irony in 2 Peter 1:16 as it pertains to our era, which declares: “For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty.” Likewise, I find Matthew 16:28 both ironic and pertinent, which states: “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

There are estimated to be over 2 billions Christians around the world. Are you seriously expecting us to believe that they have been able to hide a “covert” belief like this from themselves and everyone else for 2000 years?

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11 minutes ago, exchemist said:

There are estimated to be over 2 billions Christians around the world. Are you seriously expecting us to believe that they have been able to hide a “covert” belief like this from themselves and everyone else for 2000 years?

Absolutely, as I said, individuals recoil from the prospect of being perceived as irrational for asserting that “Jesus” walks the Earth. How’s it going exchemist?

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14 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

Absolutely, as I said, individuals recoil from the prospect of being perceived as irrational for asserting that “Jesus” walks the Earth. How’s it going exchemist?

Do I know you? I generally avoid having friends who are barking madđŸ€Ș😁

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10 minutes ago, exchemist said:

Do I know you? I generally avoid having friends who are barking madđŸ€Ș😁

Guess not, but I know you from RF. Can’t be any more mad than believing a man rose from the grave 2000 years ago, is in heaven now waiting to judge the world, and bring forth a new heaven and earth.đŸ€Ș😁

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1 minute ago, King Phenomenon said:

Guess not, but I know you from RF.

Oh Christ [rhetorical]🙄

I stopped visiting that site because of its toleration of trolling, bad faith argument - and all the monomaniac nutters.

This is a haven of rationality by comparison. You may need to up your game here.

20 minutes ago, exchemist said:

Do I know you? I generally avoid having friends who are barking madđŸ€Ș😁

I gotta agree here

9 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

Guess not, but I know you from RF. Can’t be any more mad than believing a man rose from the grave 2000 years ago, is in heaven now waiting to judge the world, and bring forth a new heaven and earth.đŸ€Ș😁

Criticizing a religion is one thing, disrespect is rude and will not be tolerated

What is this “RF?”

47 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

Concerning Christianity, I propose that its adherents covertly believe that “Jesus” resides on Earth and that, upon His death, all existence shall cease and recommence with Him as a young boy. I conjecture that most inhabitants of Earth harbor this notion—that God incarnate dwells among us—yet refrain from acknowledging it.

This would be trivially proven or disproven with a simple poll. How can "most inhabitants of Earth harbor this notion" when most aren't human? And how can most humans think this way when only 30% are Christian?

If you're talking about all gods, then again it would be trivial to devise a poll to find out if your idea has merit. I'm not sure what makes you think you know what all these "inhabitants" secretly believe.

This is a science discussion forum, and the words you use have meaning here.

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8 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

This would be trivially proven or disproven with a simple poll. How can "most inhabitants of Earth harbor this notion" when most aren't human? And how can most humans think this way when only 30% are Christian?

If you're talking about all gods, then again it would be trivial to devise a poll to find out if your idea has merit. I'm not sure what makes you think you know what all these "inhabitants" secretly believe.

This is a science discussion forum, and the words you use have meaning here.

The second sentence covers a broader scope.

In regards to my statement about what people secretly believe, speaking from a scientific point of view, I have made an observation. Unfortunately, my observation can’t be scientifically tested like a hypothesis because of the deceit involved.

17 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

The second sentence covers a broader scope.

I have no idea what you mean by this. Clarity is important in discussion.

18 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

In regards to my statement about what people secretly believe, speaking from a scientific point of view, I have made an observation. Unfortunately, my observation can’t be scientifically tested like a hypothesis because of the deceit involved.

You observed that people SECRETLY believe something? How does this work?

And the simplest way to test this can't be done because people are deceptive? How convenient for the assertions you're making.

21 minutes ago, King Phenomenon said:

speaking from a scientific point of view

In what way is this approach "scientific"? How do you justify any religion using standard methodologies?

Hello, I go by the name King Phenomenon, and I’m looking forward to getting to know you. Science is a fascinating subject, and I’m always open to learning more.

Hello, have you read the rules here ?

Newcomers are allowed 5 posts in their first 24 hours as an effective security measure.

Just now, Phi for All said:

This would be trivially proven or disproven with a simple poll. How can "most inhabitants of Earth harbor this notion" when most aren't human? And how can most humans think this way when only 30% are Christian?

This would be a prime example of the rule that all sections, including religion, are about the scientific aspects of that section.

So I look forward to your scientific rebuttal by the moderator.

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