could matter be the pushing against space-time?

1 hour ago, ALine said:

could matter be the pushing against space-time?

How would that work? Space-time is geometry

And pushing has implications for e.g. momentum which we don’t observe.

I am not sure, what if the matter was space-time somehow curling into specific geometries?

7 minutes ago, swansont said:

And pushing has implications for e.g. momentum which we don’t observe

if you don't mind me asking what are some of the implications?

3 minutes ago, ALine said:

I am not sure, what if the matter was space-time somehow curling into specific geometries?

You posted this in classical physics. If it were in speculations, I’d ask you for some evidence or a model. 

Absent that, it’s a WAG and we don’t j\have a WAG forum.

6 minutes ago, ALine said:

if you don't mind me asking what are some of the implications?

If one thing pushes on another, that other thing pushes back. Momentum changes. You’d have things slowing down because of spacetime pushing on it. That throws Newton’s first law out the window. 

21 minutes ago, swansont said:

You posted this in classical physics. If it were in speculations, I’d ask you for some evidence or a model. 

Absent that, it’s a WAG and we don’t j\have a WAG forum.

Apologies did not mean to post it here then.

22 minutes ago, swansont said:

If one thing pushes on another, that other thing pushes back. Momentum changes. You’d have things slowing down because of spacetime pushing on it. That throws Newton’s first law out the window. 

Did not realize that, thank you.

4 hours ago, ALine said:

could matter be the pushing against space-time?

Only had a year of college physics, but my understanding is that matter has mass which bends space time from two effects, the mass of the matter also called gravity, and the spin of the matter called frame dragging.

Dude don't let anyone tell you to stop thinking like this imagine the physics happening. And I can't give you the entire model right now I'm just giving it a bit at a time to minds capable of understanding it. You fit the bill, ok there is no way in this universe to account for space-time curvature in 3d without accepting it as a medium sorry a substrate or field yes let's call it a field we don't want to upset the boomers, but a field with varying density or viscosity for lack of better terms. A ball on a rubber sheet is a stupid representation of a 3d reality and regions of density smashes any other explanation whilst maintaining all observed phenomena and explaining it bettrr You just can't do it any other way. When you accept this idea you then have to give this density elasticity, compressability, and stiffness to even write a Lagrangian because density must come first, and every bit of science today cannot stand without a field they dance around the medium because of a misunderstood experiment, the MME, anyway with just this and torsional wave propagation in this medium you can explain everything, gravity? Just pressure mediation, denser areas of 'spacetime' displaced by mass create null points of pressure in between masses that they fall towards. But back to your insight, does matter get pushed by space? Yes everything does, this is why light has momentum and why it speeds back up when it leaves a medium, it is screwing around up down along a path pushing space and it pushes back, so when light leaves a medium it's forced to its original speed and it's momentum isn't from the wave it's from the medium. Everything is trying to rest in a universe with no straight lines only curve linear translations. The medium pushes back and want to be at rest just like everything else. And if any one wants to explain any theory in science to me without first accepting that my physics exist there welcome to try. My physics has been consensus far longer than any other theorem today and is only built on a simple mechanics that when looked at through the lens of torsional waves through a field actually explains classical and quantum effects mechanically.

Edited August 4Aug 4 by X - TheLuxiaGuy
Changed medium to field for easier digestion