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18 hours ago, mad_scientist said:

What exactly is it that distinguishes those who are able to gain white collar work to those who are unable to, and are forced to be engaged in blue collar work instead?

   I would counter that question with; What would make someone who is a low level white collar worker (an office worker among many in a vast cubicle work station environment for example) accept a title only promotion to "assistant manager" that entails additional responsibilities and work hours without substantive compensation? 

   I personally believe many young white collar workers are taken advantage of in this regard. They are naive and optimistic believing they are going to be lucky in life or that they have something special that the other workers don't. (Why else would they be picked for this and the others weren't?) There is also a long history of movies and books that have given a fairy tale version of such promotions. The movies; "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying" or "Working Girl" are just two examples of the many more that reinforce this idea of a fast and easy rise to the top or at least somewhere up there. 

   What I have seen in my interaction with people in many white collar positions is they misjudge the quantity of available positions and their chance of obtaining one of them, they imagine a corporate pyramid to rise up in but in most smaller companies it looks very flat with an absolute minimum of tiers, many just three levels, with those few in the middle desperately vying for the one spot at the top by putting in long hours without proper compensation themselves. I know of a restaurant manager that put in 25 years starting at the age of 20 in hopes of getting one of just a few middle manager positions that reported directly to the chains owner. At the age of 45 he realized he was passed by because those positions were now being filled from outside the company. He had been with the company almost from the beginning and was the only one of the original group that was still there hanging onto that illusion. All other first tier managers at that point were all under 30, most under 25. 

I have another mysterious little rock. This one is a little more interesting than you would first think. I found it when I was around eight years old while helping my parents dig a cellar next to our old farmhouse. The house was built in 1925 amongst 14 large white oak trees, some as old as 300 years or more.

 The rock is about the size of a grapefruit, appears to be sedimentary with substantial interconnected gas pocket openings penetrating into its interior regions. When I had first extracted it from the ground and cleaned its surface, a quite noticeable sound could be made by shaking the rock. It had a considerable quantity of very small shell fragments trapped inside of its interior cavities. It took some rigorous shaking to move some of the pieces to the outside. Over the years I would shake some out when showing someone my little mystery rock but I unfortunately neglected to save the pieces so now there is very little of it left inside compared to when I first found it.  

If I recall correctly the specimen was buried about 150cm in depth, encased within hard sandy clay with various sized rounded pebbles and cobbles. Most pebbles and cobbles around here appear to be mostly basaltic rather than the sedimentary material like that of the sample. The rocks were seldom close enough to contact each other and in fact were separated by enough distance to get only a few very small pebbles in every shovel full, with just several cobbles to every wheelbarrow load.

What makes this rock so unusual when compared to all the others encountered while digging that cellar and the tens of meters of ditches we dug in and around the house and property, was not only its unordinary roundness, the others were smooth but were still irregularly shaped, but that this rock had been in a saline environment PRIOR to its burial.  

An interesting surprise were these Barnacles, they appear to be Balanus crenatus;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanus_crenatus

“This species is mainly found in the sublittoral zone but can sometimes be found under stones or overhangs on the lower shore. It colonises pebbles, bedrock, shells and artificial structures. It is found in both calm and exposed waters and can tolerate low salinity levels and is found at depths of up to 60 metres (200 ft). It seems to favour habitats with strong currents and when overcrowding occurs, may be distorted to fit the space available. It is often found growing alongside another species of barnacle, Balanus balanus.”

The Pacific Ocean is 160km to the west. So the first possible scenario to explain this sample’s origin is that it was simply transported by early Native Americans to where I uncovered it. Would this rock have had some kind of utility? It was found at a depth that would seem to indicate appreciable age. An interesting point for conversation is the area of disposition is part of the Glacial Lake Missoula ponded valley system in Oregon and Washington states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_Floods

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinookan_peoples

“Chinookan peoples include several groups of indigenous people of the Pacific Northwest in the United States who speak the Chinookan languages. In the early 19th century, the Chinookan-speaking peoples resided along the Lower and Middle Columbia River (Wimahl) (″Big River″) from the river's gorge (near the present town of The Dalles, Oregon) downstream to the river's mouth, and along adjacent portions of the coasts, from Tillamook Bay of present-day Oregon in the south, north to Willapa Bay in southwest Washington. In 1805 the Lewis and Clark Expedition encountered the Chinook tribe on the lower Columbia.”

Map (above) of traditional Chinook tribal territory.

Chinookan-speaking groups include:

“Clackamas or Cathlascans (″Those along the Clackamas River″, inhabited the Willamette Valley on the eastbank of the Willamette River as far as the Willamette Falls, above and below the Falls themselves on either bank, and along the Clackamas River and Sandy Rivers."

   Oregon City, established in 1829 by the Hudson's Bay Company, it lies at the East bank of the Willamette river just north of Willamette Falls and immediately to the south of where the Clackamas river joins the Willamette. The Falls along with the Clackamas rapids were major fishing sites for the Chinookun who lived along both banks of the rivers for thousands of years. Settlers arrived and displaced the natives from the newly designated Oregon City site and surrounding locations.  In 1844 it became the first U.S. city west of the Rocky Mountains to be incorporated, a rather recent and narrow span of emigrational history for human alteration of the site and surrounding area.

That seems to be a fair assessment. And always remember any paradoxical discovery is weighed against a preponderance of very well understood evidence in favor of evolution. It is then unlikely one single contrary discovery could overturn the very many in favor. 

The fossils are undoubtedly in the "right places" it's simply the observer is unable to garner enough information to explain the circumstances that led to their deposition.

7 hours ago, Moreno said:

Modern genetic analysis shows that ancestors of 90% modern British people came from Eastern Europe around 4500 years ago. 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180221131851.htm

 

Wow! Great article. This additional info on the aboriginal hunter/gatherers and their interaction with the influx of migrating farmers is interesting. They say it was biased towards one sex. I would assume these were patriarchal systems operating between the two groups.

New Insights from Southeastern Europe

"Reich's second new Nature paper, on the genomic history of southeastern Europe, reveals an additional migration as farming spread across Europe, based on data from 255 individuals who lived between 14,000 and 2,500 years ago. It also adds a fascinating new nugget -- the first compelling evidence that the genetic mixing of populations in Europe was biased toward one sex.

Hunter-gatherer genes remaining in northern Europeans after the influx of migrating farmers came more from males than females, Reich's team found. "Archaeological evidence shows that when farmers first spread into northern Europe, they stopped at a latitude where their crops didn't grow well," he says. "As a result, there were persistent boundaries between the farmers and the hunter-gatherers for a couple of thousand years." This gave the hunter-gatherers and farmers a long time to interact. According to Reich, one speculative scenario is that during this long, drawn-out interaction, there was a social or power dynamic in which farmer women tended to be integrated into hunter-gatherer communities.

So far that's only a guess, but the fact that ancient DNA provides clues about the different social roles and fates of men and women in ancient society "is another way, I think, that these data are so extraordinary," says Reich."

It probably isn't a casual coincidence that our cultures now trade in stories about farmer's daughters and traveling .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .

Town was built just for the movie and then removed. The RR tracks were existing and were removed in 1961. 

The final scene:  

Just wanted to provide some specification on this 22 cal. situation here. 

http://gunwiki.net/Gunwiki/VersusRound223vs556vs22lr

"The ubiquitous and inexpensive 22LR round can be fired through a large number of different rifles. It's also possible to design a conversion kit into any 223/5.56mm rifle, to shoot 22LR out of it. This is quite commonly done on the AR-15 platform with the 'Ceiner' conversion. One thing to be aware of, when considering a drop-in conversion, is that 22LR bullets are .223" in diameter, while 223/5.56mm bullets are .224" in diameter. While the 22LR bullet will readily travel down a 223/5.56mm barrel, it won't be a very tight fit and there will be a drop in accuracy compared to a barrel designed for 22LR. Another consideration is that the optimal twist rate for 22LR barrels is slower than any of the common 223/5.56mm twist rates."

-- SeanNewton - 07 Dec 2007

11 hours ago, BahadirArici said:

We need change. We need change not only for the merging but also we owe this to ourselves. These are the things we should do to create a fair, better World:

1) Fixing the World

Every decade, no every year, the gap between the rich and the rest is getting greater and we do need to act because obviously it is not going to change by itself. The system we are living in is inhuman. It is not only inhuman for people living in the war zones or living in poverty or for people working like a machine, through out the week, with an unacceptable tempo, without having any existential experience. It is inhuman for the wast majority of this World, billions of people, and it is making them live without a decent human experience, forcing them to feel content if they are lucky enough to feed themselves and their families. It is an illusion that this is an issue of the third World. There are millions of people living in similar inhuman conditions in the very first World. It is a pyramid we are living in and it is sickening.

Yet we can do better. Not only doing your best to create a better society, by that a better World, is an existential responsibility but also we all will benefit from living in a just World, even the richest.

2) The three step formula

Creating the better World has a 3 step formula:

1) Building a decentralised World Federation of City-States
People, living hundreds of kilometers away, vote how I live, and vice versa which doesnt make sense at all. There should be city-states rather than countries. So each city could rule itself within the roof of decentralised Wold Federation. By achieving a World of City-States, the concept of “nation” will be history.

2) Establishing direct democracy via internet
If the whole country was just a city like in Ancient Greek, we could rule ourselves with the help of internet. This, direct democracy, could easily be organized online in city-states. It would be almost like discussing on a facebook group. Besides, why does lawmakers are a limited crowd? Anyone should be able to offer a law, or offer to change a law, as a existential right, in the city-state ze lives in. Anyone should be able to offer a law draft, with enough “thumbs up”, that draft should turn into a law offer. Then we can vote online and see if it should become a new law or not.

3) Using a precious material such as gold as global currency
We should use gold. We should use gold because any currency except dollar means nothing and dollar is under the control of some families. They are downright selling us paper. It is not just that, 1 out of 10.000 owns 80% of the money in the world. This is absurd. So there should be a limit to the money that one can own. Actually, the rest 20% of the money is not divided among 9,999 people equally, either. To be honest, 9,500 people doesnt have a dime. If that American Dream doesnt work out, wont ever have. Lets build a New World of City-States, a World without countries, without kingdoms or empires.

3) The essential rules of the new World

There are three things i simply can not pass without pointing out: First one is, World resources should not be allotted to city-states. We should have a World Federation which will make sure that every individual (organic or inorganic) living on Earth benefits from the richness of this World. The second one is, there should be Universal Basic Income for every intellectual being, for every person living on this planet. And the third essential rule is, there should be a limit to how much one can own. Any person should have maximum 2.500 KG gold worth goods and gold. Any “extra” that is earned should either be paid as tax or spent for charity purposes by a none-profit organisation. The “shares”, the “stocks” of a company are not included to this sum yet the profit is included. A similar cap should exist for legal personalities, for companies and institutions too. Either a firm or an institute, the maximum cap should be 25.000 KG gold yet the goods that are production related are not be included.

    Hello BahadirArichi, I take it your having a rough go of it. It's a tough world out there. There is probably one separate and distinct opinion of "what's wrong with the world and what we should do about it" for every single person on the planet. And there lies your problem. To save the world you would need an identical number of worlds to that which you could derive a consensus of individual groups supporting a particular solution or approach to solving the world's difficulties. Then each group could have a go at it on its very own planet without having to fight all the other groups and their ideas for "fixing the world". Because as you know we tend to send armies and navies out to fix problems.

          Ah, but they would need thousands of worlds to satisfy so many opinions, probably you would need millions of earths.

   But then most of the problems would be gone wouldn't they. Everyone would spread out around their new world they were now on and find there own little spot of good earth, clean water, mild weather and enjoy their new found freedom and happiness. So it would seem that the problems of the world is what would keep you from solving the problems of the world.      

    This thread touches on something remarkably close to what I had wondered and had contemplated on over a dozen years ago. One evening my wife and I had taken her mother to a major HMO hospital for an ER visit. While my wife assisted her mother with the check-in I stayed out in the lobby/entrance and studied the comings and goings of humanity. I was really struck when a nurse walked through the door in her scrubs who was by any measure, very morbidly obese. It was shift change and every few minutes another nurse walked in as heavy as the last one.  They were men and women alike. One of the last ones through the door had a rather large chocolate cake under his arm. I assumed this behavior was stress related and then wondered if this had any possible effect on their children, either as the OP alluded or simply as an environmental/relationship connection. It would seem having a parent work at night and missing that evening companionship could affect their children in some way, and if the parents dealt with their stress the same way at home it would be difficult for their children to avoid the same fate with those same foods and the pressures from loneliness.

5 hours ago, Externet said:

I believe that is OBL and not Saddam.

https://www.google.com/search?q=osama+bin+laden+sweden&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&tbs=simg:CAESrAIJ9oMVmpkGe8gaoAILEKjU2AQaAggVDAsQsIynCBpiCmAIAxIo2h7ZHqER5he2HLAe2x6WG84f4hzFLMMsxCzGLKw6rTrfLbow0C-4KxowVX_16-nbW4DyZu3c4x6TWVJamVlvR2lhqLT-Btta5OvEhTTvXeEYP_1EVh0rrDDwFsIAQMCxCOrv4IGgoKCAgBEgT-I9KlDAsQne3BCRqNAQoZCgZwZW9wbGXapYj2AwsKCS9tLzA5ZzVwcQofCgxzb2NpYWwgZ3JvdXDapYj2AwsKCS9tLzAxYjRxOQoYCgV5b3V0aNqliPYDCwoJL20vMDIxZGZyChsKCWNvbW11bml0edqliPYDCgoIL20vMDFxbHMKGAoFZXZlbnTapYj2AwsKCS9tLzA4MXBragw&fir=HZtggJvJROijOM%3A%2CZX7-F1W5AeDOMM%2C_&usg=__BjsSFk65vT5EviRe-1L7E1ypJHg%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ87Ht94rZAhUK5WMKHdIJAg0Q9QEISzAI#imgrc=HZtggJvJROijOM:

 Or is that the before and after you meant. 

Sorry about the obnoxious size and text BTW.

I'm thinking Mt. Saint Helens, I believe Janus and I are somewhat geographic neighbors and it is visible from my house roughly 100 km away. 

On 1/14/2018 at 5:33 AM, Raider5678 said:

I had used metal for the balls, it still doesn't work.

It's a very simple concept, and all I know is that I'm losing a LOT of energy somewhere. I'm assuming the strings are too large(they're pretty important) so I'm going to restring it with fishing line.

 

I used a 6 1/2 inch by 3 inch by 1/2 inch dark stained block with 4 square pieces.  1/2 by 1/2 inch by 4 inches. Then I used two 6 inch long 1/4 inch dowels and put them between the 1/2inch pieces of wood by drilling a hole. So the woods pretty nice looking, albeit a tiny bit crooked on one side.

I think they appear deceptively simple. But all of the ball's contact points must be directly inline from one end to the other, from first to the last. Even unnoticeable variation in contact points would produce deflection, so energy would be spent inducing rotation in the ball that then would be transferred to the other balls and even to the strings as they resist the errant movement being transferred down the line.  All of the best examples I've seen use metal that resists the dynamics of the swinging mass, any unnoticeable movement in the frame would dampen the kinetic energy. As would any variation in specifications between components that should ideally be identical. 

       I have a reasonable suspicion this is how Kim Jong-un's bodyguards screw with him. 

The light source must remain constant. Once the box is sealed the light energy ends and is absorbed, as the rest was previously by the mirrors, as heat.

Just viewed this demonstration without the soundtrack masking the device in action. It sounds like the eccentric mass is directly attached to the motor shaft and is spinning at the same RPM as the motor. It is likely off center to the shaft by a very small degree from what the video demonstrates.

Torque in these situations is usually provided by an eccentric movement of a adequate mass somewhat akin to a flywheel on an offset input shaft. It would vibrate considerably if connected directly to the motor shaft. This one probably utilizes a considerably sizable gear reduction before the eccentric that reduces what would be noticeable shaking. The viscosity of the liquid dampens or reduces the remaining gyration to just the slight wander that the device makes around the pan.

It’s difficult to consider any type of exploration that does not include ample quantities of uncertainty, proportionally in most cases to whatever risks involved. Nothing ventured . . . . . 

1 hour ago, fresh said:

how about the last one. 

Professor Henshaw, a physicist with the University of Bristol, found that if a person spent 10 per cent of his time close to power lines, he would be subjected to up to twice the acceptable level of radioactivity. His study linked power lines to leukaemia. Henshaw says they also cause skin cancer, lung cancer, depression and increased incidents of suicide.

In other research carried out at Oxford University, it was discovered that children who had lived within 200m of high voltage lines at birth had a 70% higher risk of leukaemia than those 600 meters or more away.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/24/us/data-tying-cancer-to-electric-power-found-to-be-false.html

  Although this is an old article it illustrates how easily one researcher can derail the understanding and feed the hysteria of a "possible" public health issue. All follow up research appears to contradict the original claims. This was a pretty big deal at the time because it lead to expensive changes in the routing of high tension power lines that were ultimately paid for by the rate payers.

That would be Wallis! Sometimes I really hate auto correct!

One of my ancestors with the last name of Von Bontz from Germany arrived here in N. America in the early 1700's. By the early 1800's it had became Bantz, one of which who then married a decedent of a guy named Ruben Kessler who had arrived here in the early 1800's.

https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=kessler

Kessler Name Meaning German, Dutch, and Jewish (Ashkenazic): occupational name for a maker of copper cooking vessels, from an agent derivative of Middle High German kezzel ‘kettle’, ‘cauldron’, Middle Dutch ketel, modern German Kessel.

But oddly there is no trace of any Jewish tradition or folklore or any other indication that the family ancestors were at one time practicing the Jewish sacraments. It is known that many Jews went covert when the inquisition occurred but most did so to stay within the domain of the Spanish crown in Spain and its colonies. I'm leaning towards it may have been simply the person wanted a fresh start here in America and believed total assimilation would be the easiest way to prosper. They became well connected in the business and political families of the Mid-Atlantic seaboard. Families of senators, judges, bankers, railroad builders and university chancellors.

I'm a mutt, genealogically speaking. I have Irish, English, Dutch, Middle-eastern, German and Norman - His name was Pagan Warfield, my great-great-grandmother's maiden name, Pagan was likely a mercenary for William I, usually known as William the Conqueror and sometimes William the Bastard , and yes, Wallace Warfield/Simpson was my grandmother's second cousin, they played together as children. My last name is Swedish, my dad's dad was full Swede, but I'm 5'7" with dark brown hair. Not the standard Swedish of tall, blond and blue eyes.

I agree. The piping that feed the the water and the coolant to the reactor is present in the chamber;_ but why? ~ is the chamber, that contains the reactor is pressurized ;not much psi but a little . but

I would think that monitoring a slight pressure would be the quickest way to detect a breach of the containment structure.

Possibly a very small crack somewhere inaccessible to normal operations.

Yes swansont, I think this is a perfect time to close this thread. It has ran its coarse. I had considered doing it a year ago when things came to an end back then. I'd much rather spend my time searching for and reading research papers to strengthen the model then maintain this thread. It's better time spent, with a much greater reward. My website has been needing my attention for years. So much to do!

I'm quite happy with how well it has done over its run time here. Remember, its first 8 months was in the Earth Sciences section. I think it has probably made a few SFN firsts. I believe it's #3 for total views in the speculations section currently. And I'm confident it will make it to #1 on it's own from here, last July it was on page 8 and idle for 5 months but was going crazy in view numbers anyway, and later it was doing great on page 15 before I started it again.

I would have been posting the summary today, but after reading post 489 and then seeing that three of the posts that I had provided to tide things over until now had been down voted following it, I decided I could see pretty clearly what will be next with this thread. Those posts were ones that made very good predictions, good enough that someone had felt they deserved a plus 1 at the time they were posted well over a year ago. Funny how all of a sudden all three of them didn't make the grade now. Rather then seeing more of this type of behavior I would rather end the thread on a high note without regrets.

I'd like to thank billiards for his time here, he made it a lot of fun, and I sincerely mean that, our dueling was epic. And studiot, a true gentleman and scholar who helped me greatly despite my stubbornness.

A big special thanks to Unity for all his help when I really needed it. And Mike Smith who helped me get the conversation going at the beginning and has always had my back.

OK, I have to go now my wife is doing cartwheels and hand springs in the front yard for some reason.

Well that is nice, but do you intend to act upon it? That is, will you prepare a proper short, cogent overview of your hypothesis in the manner I have suggested?

I'm sorry I don't think I will be able to finish it now, I suffered a rather unfortunate accident. In reviewing your previous posts my Troll Detector exploded with such ferocity I was nearly blinded.

I fear that you are serious. I fear that you have never read, or certainly not noticed a well written abstract. I fear that the word summary is a neologism to you.

 

I expect your summary to be no longer than a single A4 page. I do not expect you to present the key evidence. I expect you to present a summary of the key evidence. Here is an example of how I would deliver a portion of the key evidence for the current conventional view of plate tectonics.

 

Deep sea trenches are lengthy linear features whose depths are substantially below those of the general depth of the ocean floor (reference). They occur within ocean basins and along some continental/oceanic margins. They are often, although not always, accompanied by a volcanic arc (reference). In addition to these topographic features they are distinguished by gravity anomalies (reference) and high heat flow (reference).

 

Ideally the references should be to primary papers or review papers. The end result should be short, yet omit nothing of importance. It should follow a logical progression, with conclusions building on and being clearly related to what has gone before.

 

I am sorry if my opening sentences come across as aggressive, but really, your inability to understand what a well written summary would be like is truly astounding. It makes me question whether you actually have a clear vision of your hypothesis. At present it just seems a jumble of detail with no coherence whatsoever. I hope you will be able to rectify this soon.

Hello again Argent, Yes I'm sure you are probably right. As I said, your feedback is appreciated.

I asked you to take the time to present your hypothesis in a nicely structured way with the key evidence linked to each step.

Hello Argent, I'm a little curious as to how many words do you expect this to be. At the bottom of all my posts is a link to my .com web site that has the hypothesis just as you describe above. " in a nicely structured way with the key evidence linked to each step"

It is as compact as I can currently make it at the moment due to the "key evidence" involves describing both the mechanics and the predictions of observations that support the overall general outline. Right now it is 214 pages with 51,469 words. This is just the Plate Tectonic part of the hypothesis, the overall "idea" is 370 pages at 97,555 words.

Perhaps you have addressed them, buried in the many pages of this thread. By all means refer me to those pages, but do so with an accompanying concise summary of your argument and evidence. Thank you.

 

It will take me a little while to put something together that I feel is adequate to fulfill the requirement. Your feedback is appreciated. The idea is generally present in those links I had put in that last post. Take a look at this one here, http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/73730-plate-tectonic-mechanism/page-18#entry843598

I will probably begin the summery using it as a template and just add in more details and links. BTW, you refer to "evidence", surprisingly, that detail takes up quite a lot of space and is what ended up making my web page version so long. Evidence requires a detailed explanation.

A forum is the worst place to introduce an idea. The OP wants to just tell the story and everyone else just wants to edit it. It's sort of like having a bus with everyone on board having their own steering wheel and gas pedal. It just turns into a wrestling match.