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Voila! Just happened to realize that my brain power lapses long before my fingers do. got it!!

I suppose if one was to look at either scenario and acquiesce to it as a creed, it might be conceded as an ediface to ignorance. I simply can't go there. I see things that I can touch, feel, visualize and/or calcuilate as real, not the thought processes of others. My own ideas of where, and why we are; may not be in accordance with many good and much more educated folks than myself, but unfortunately I've never been a very good follower. My question was and still is: As we seem to languish in our little corner of the universe, why does the rest of it seem to be running away at light speed? And to where? Bless his little Pea Pickin' Heart, but Dr. Einstein surely did put a burden on the rest of us???

I had arrived that very afternoon at Ft. Bliss in El Paso, Texas. We had went down from Ohio to do some practice firinng at the McGregor missile range in New Mexico. But, when you arrive at Ft. Bliss to witness a railyard bristlig with every type of ordinance imaginable, it gives you pause to reflect, and also a thought of foreboding. The following is just an excerpt. The entirity of what was the"Cuban Missile Crisis" can be picked up in many archieves. Do I blame the Isralis for their actions today?, Hell No!

On October 22, 1962, President John F. Kennedy informed the world that the Soviet Union was building secret missile bases in Cuba, a mere 90 miles off the shores of Florida. After weighing such options as an armed invasion of Cuba and air strikes against the missiles, Kennedy decided on a less dangerous response. In addition to demanding that Russian Premier Nikita S. Khrushchev remove all the missile bases and their deadly contents, Kennedy ordered a naval quarantine (blockade) of Cuba in order to prevent Russian ships from bringing additional missiles and construction materials to the island. In response to the American naval blockade, Premier Khrushchev authorized his Soviet field commanders in Cuba to launch their tactical nuclear weapons if invaded by U.S. forces. Deadlocked in this manner, the two leaders of the world's greatest nuclear superpowers stared each other down for seven days - until Khrushchev blinked. On October 28, thinking better of prolonging his challenge to the United States, the Russian Premier conceded to President Kennedy's demands by ordering all Soviet supply ships away from Cuban waters and agreeing to remove the missiles from Cuba's mainland. After several days of teetering on the brink of nuclear holocaust, the world breathed a sigh of relief.

"Gaza Aid Flotilla"? Will something such as this eventually be our worlds Armageddon? But by the same token, no one should ever kick what they consider a mouse into a corner,where it's only chance of survival; "is to fight".

rigney, I think it would be helpful if you explain what in your opinion the "entire galactic universe" consist of...

Thanks Spyman. My understanding of the universe is that several (13+?) billion years ago everything eminated from a specific point. Over time it has somehow evolved into the galaxies we see today. While what we see is perhaps only a sampling of this vastness, I believe that in any portion of the universe we might ever look, the view will be no different. My problem is that, with red shift; we see the fartherest galaxies moving away from us at light speed or greater. Yet the galaxies in our immediate cluster or those in nearby clusters, don't seem to differientiate spectorally in speed at all? If as Einstein formulated, we exist on the outer cover of some expanding sphere where gravity, time and space warp(age?) act as a continuous circle, from what is the universe running, and to where is it going at such a speed?

Guys, if you've looked at my initial question, you'll know that my total understanding of physics pertains only to x-laxs. No pun or insult intended. Math of any sort is not my thing. But could it be possible that the entire galactic universe might be moving at less than a million mph? It's a foolish guesstimate and only a question, so I have no way of explaining it other than how I relate it to our galaxy and solar system, which I don't do too well either.

Well Insane guy, we know that something is happening? I awake in the morning, it's light and it's about seven AM. I go to bed around ten/ten thirty PM each night when it's dark, I sleep about eight hrs and do it all over again. I go through the four seasons and recognise the difference between them. Science tells me that our earth is spinning at a thousand miles per hr. and we're zipping around our sun at some sixty five thousand miles per hr. I'm not sure that I can relate to no universal frame since I don't know what that means. Some folks say that our universe is traveling at the speed of light which makes me wonder? Why is there no universal frame? I'm told that our galaxy and the Andromeda are gonna crash into each other somewhere down the road. Something has to be moving?

My esophagus will probably close over, but I'm gonna give you a "Big Amen" on just about everything you related to jackson33'. 'Course, us Hill Billys have our pride, so don't get carried away. Ain't it something though, I'm over the hill, but have never received anything from the government other than S.S., which in all honesty I would "GLADLY", quote; "GLADLY" return if I could be assured it would go to some poor slob who has worked his a-- off an entire life time and still not able to get aboard. Spent my entire career in missiles and the automotive industry. Yes! I do get a stipend from the local group, but a suppliment not even large enough for another humans needs. Ask my wife!!. Appreciate your input, but never thought for a minute I was giving away my age as someone over thirty?? Give me a private buzz any time. might be nice just talking to someone with a load of experience, so to speak? Almost anything else, I keep forgetting??!

PS. My older brothers daughter is a Physics Professor @ the University of N.M. in Albuequarque after spending several years at the Hanford Site in Washington. I have no idea where the brain power came from??

Socialistic policies? Do you recall by chance an insane and maniacle madman who brought the world, KristollNacht? Or the other "Nut Case" from Russia? who did him even better? How soon we forget!

Well, I've hung around a couple of weeks now without being thrown out of the forum. Perhaps that will change shortly. The name is Rigney, and I'm a proud Hill Billy from West Virginia. My education probably wouldn't fill a Lemmings ear, so I have a million questions to ask. But I do know how to plow, mow and wind row. So, bear with me!!

How fast is our universal speed? From where are we coming, and to where are we going? I've heard everything from, it isn't moving at all; to light speed, or greater, then to slow down and freeze over??? Since I'm not well enough equipped to even begin answering such a question, maybe someone can help.

Conspiracy is in the mind of the thinker. I do believe there was a collusive conspiracy to assinate Abe Lincoln. A conspiracy to assinate Hitler? Yes. Conspiracies to harm our soldiers and allies by civilians in the wars we're now in? Yes. To blow up the Trade Center, the Pentegon? Yes. But I never once considered it to be other than a lone, sad and miserable soul, that assinatated President Kennedy. Surhan Surhan and brother Bobby, I haven't a clue? The maniac that did the assassinations at Ft. Hood? What can I say? Today, the confluence of deranged minds are not too far away from the main stream of societies. But, if this erosive spirit continues to run free and can't be challanged or changed, there is a lot of trouble ahead for normality!!

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Conspitory Theorist? Nay, Ecoli. But have you been watching todays news? Tsk-Tsk!

'Now', Not trying to be controversial but, Yes I would object. To build a Church, Mosque Synagog, or Whore House on any of these beautiful sites just because you have the bucks to do so, is ludicrous. There is a beautiful Mosque on West 130st. in Cleveland just east of me. While I've never been inside, it is a fabulous structure. But then, rarely do I go inside many other churches. Am I anti Muslim? If you can read into my verbiage, you know that I have biases. My only draw back to Muslim Religion is that I don't agree with their dictates of Sharia Law. This handbook of laws is in total conflict with our state and national laws. To me this will eventually be a real problem. The Morman Religion was on the same path a hundred and fifty years ago as Islam is today. But the Mormans didn't have such a stringent loyalty doctrine and finally conformed to becoming citizens of America without being belligerent. I can't believe this will ever happen with Islam.

Jackson33, I notice a few like you are rarther reticent to use any specificity in declaring your residency. Me, I live in Lakewood, Ohio. Not to be provocative; but, let's say that a group of Muslim Imams decide to build a Mosque just outside Buckingham Palace, the Arc De Triumph, or next door to the beautiful Opera House in Sydney? Or, perhaps even beside the Parliment building in Ottawa? I don't believe any of the people living in these areas would be happy campers? Need I go farther? And basically, this issue has nothing to do with religion. Welfare? I've put 16 hours a day in at two Mc Donalds rather than to go on the dole. Me?, I would rather crawl to a job than go on welfare.

P.S. Just to let you know where I stand, I'm a Bigot. I despise anything the KKK stands for.

This year, April 5, a methane explosion killed 29 men in a Whitesville, West Virginia coal mining accident. I'm sure you're are aware of the disaster and the proceeding hue and cry of the blame game? By 15 April, even President Obama had jumped in with both feet to denounce the owner, Massey; as being "Responsible" for negligence leading up to the event. Today, June 15, as far as I know there hasn't been one new editorial concerning the happening. 29 men are simply dead, but mining will not stop, just yet. Excitement has died down and only the families grieve. This oil spill in the gulf? Even though in a couple months the names of the men who died there will be forgotton by other than family, the moratoriam over this spill will be in litigation until the United States has moved itself to an entirely new power source. Make a bet?

You're right! This site should not be dedicated to anyones GOD, but a place to reflect on the good and bad found in all humans. Yet, until we reach that fork in the road with a better understanding of which lead to take, it's best to be vigilant, and keep your powder dry.

I'm not making light of your understanding of the event Insane Guy, but this is arguably the most catastrophic "accident" in my life time. Was it neglect? I hope not. Was it an honest, but possibly preventable accident? I hope nothing more. But when I see a call for extreme change to other power sources for this country, I wonder?

While I've never been a "conspiracy" nut case, this oil spill thing in the gulf has me wondering? Of all the areas that could have been drilled on land or in much more shallow water, why was B.P. demanded to drill so deep? With the Anwar in Alaska as an example, and many other areas on the high and dry, again, why so deep? And trying to cap, plug or control a well @ a 5,000ft. depth, and after the fact, is like trying to cram a wet noodle up a "Wild Cats" behind. And to lose a full crew in the process doesn't make any sense either. But then, we are trying to get away from oil and go with wind, solar and probably more atomic power. What a waste of resource. To think, a drilling like this in the Anwar may have caused a caribou or bear a bad headache by running into the rig. But the devastation to wildlife along these gulf shores and in the sea will be immeasurable for years to come. At that depth, and as cold as it is down there, those massive jello like globules of deep oil will likely be releasing for a long time. Believe me, I just don't see it as B.Ps fault alone. A "lot of unknowns" in high places can take the blame for this disaster.

eh? pangloss is floridian. and the UK had more colonies than austrailia.

 

Also, the forum has a quote button or you can use quote tags [ quote] [ /quote] (without the spaces)

 

to quote someone. it looks better and it is more obvious where one persons comments end and anothers begin.

I know you're just poking fun Insane Guy. I've only been into computers for about six months or so and not quite acculimated yet. But in fact, I thought he was talking about the 13 original colonies here in the U.S.

Since everyone seems to be fluent in Sharia Law, perhaps being a "Bigot" is a better way of approaching the problem. Who! is "not" a Bigot that denounces their opponent as a Bigot?

Me, I believe that even with all of the heart ache and angst brought on by this terrible devestation, N.Y. can still use the tax money from this project to supplement their welfare programs.

I'd hardly call Pat Condell a comedian.

Quite right Sayonara, I'd say much more a controversialist. But I don't believe Pat is a fanatic.

Pangloss (Wait, what?) Today, 9:26 AM #1

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First the colonies, now that goal. Is there anything that won't slip through your fingers, England?

Have to believe that was an Aussie having a go at someone from: Bristol or Bermingham,

perhaps? And you still regard us as "The Colonies" Tsk-Tsk!!

As I said at the beginning, I'm much more an agnostic than a zealot, or passivist to any religion. So, before getting into the semantics of having either or both explained to me, I'm wondering if any of you are familiar with Sharia Law? If not, I suggest you read it.

If you have read it and espouse its (Theology?), then I have to say that I'm worried more than ever. Even for a country as young as America is, we "only began" to crawl from under our own rocks in 1865. Civilization and Fanaticism are like oil and water, they simply don't mix. Read Sharia Law, then come back and bash old Pat again if you like. A controversialist and a comedian?, the guy sure is. But you see, you don't have to take Pat serious. Sharia Law on the other hand has been an ascending form of governmental law for roughly 1600 years and is not likely to cede or capitulate their slightest instinct to western thought? So, be as reticsent as you like or vent your spleen on Pat, but you had best give this law some deep, deep thought.

Just thought if I was making a mistake, someone would shoot it down before getting out of hand. While not being your average coward, I've become cautious. Thanks

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I know I've only been here with the forum for a short time and am probably a pain in the "derriere" to some of you folks, but is this what we are looking forward to?? (This Limey, affectionately) even though a Comedian, says it all, "LOUD and CLEAR". Bob Hope could not have done a more masterful job of explaining it. I'm not bashing Muslims, they have their own problems. But I'm bashing a cowardly systen in America that allows this type of sh-t to happen with what seems to be no redress!! I'd rather take my chances with the illegals wading across the Rio Grande!!

Thanks Zolar V. I was hoping someone would come up with a valid answer, but then, it did get away from the original question. Now, if someone can give me a good, "I think So"; and explain it, I'll be happy?

Since I'm a little more Agnostic than religious, I thought such a snippet best go here. An English comedian narrates this little gem reminding Americans that America should not be a proving ground for Middle East Networking.

Most memorable line in this: "America is being crippled by political correctness..." Wow! ..Google up, "Pat Condell on Ground Zero mosque": "Is it possible to be astonished, but not surprised?"

swansont (Shaken, not Stirred) Today, 4:24 AM #6

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Have you ever read a short narrative by Chan Thomas called: The Adam and Eve Story? Was in print some forty/fifty years ago. Quite interesting. The book!, Total conjecture or real? I don't know! But then, it did get us away from the initial question, which was probably a good thing. But can anyone supply me with an excerpt from something "legitimate", explaining how a clean "solitary steel ball bearing" can be magnetized.