toastywombel

Wow, so this entails conservatism, So even though this is not true, seeing as human behavior has drastically changed and evolved throughout history, I want to skip to, 'if you have seen the present, you have seen everything'. Really what does that mean? Considering that the present is ever changing, I do not think that statement is an accurate description of reality. When the Mayans saw the night sky five thousand years ago, that means that they saw the future of space travel/machinery, as it is today. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedAnd is this something conservatives should be proud of? Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged So the author seems to be making a point that the Enlightenment was a negative on humanity? This must be a joke, I also love the terrible wording So the author wants a public policy that is less sophisticated yet more sophisticated understanding of the human condition? The author seems to be arguing against innovation, and stating that not every problem can be solved, therefore we shouldn't try? This is really ludicrous.

Same reason I voted yes on the poll.

But light is a probability wave until it interacts with an observer, that is what collapses the wave function, that is the whole point of the double-slit experiment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_physics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#Wave.E2.80.93particle_duality_and_uncertainty_principles So light can be described as a wave, but at times can also be described as a particle, to simply say that light cannot a wave is not accurate. Especially if you point out from above,

This thread wasn't about putting faith in straw polls, it an attempt to show that some like CBS NEWS, and FOX NEWS seem to be minimalizing Ron Paul, with opening statements to articles like, "New Orleans -- Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney ® won the Southern Republican Leadership Conference straw poll with 24% of the vote. It was an impressive display of organizational ability for the 2008 presidential candidate, especially considering he didn't even attend the event" It glorifies Romney, who won by one vote in a poll that means very little, on his impressive organizational abilities, please.

So if Obama, and the new congress have not changed anything, then what are the tea party people protesting? Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged I agree, they really are just protesting losing the election, and that Obama is black, I mean many of them are doing just that, lets face the facts.

No, its not totally independent. For example it is necessary to know algebra before going into calculus. Or it is necessary to know how to use a computer (through being taught) before you can study anything on the internet.

Balls to the wall can be somewhat awesome as long as you aren't too hasty at getting to the wall.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/04/10/2264694.aspx http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/04/10/romney-wins-srlc-straw-poll/?test=latestnews http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002208-503544.html http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/10/republican.conference/index.html?iref=allsearch Hmm. this is a comparison of this news headline from several different sources, it seems much of the media is minimalizing Ron Paul.

Yeah I am going to agree with bascule on this one, many of the tea party groups seem to be very ignorant of the actions of Republican Administrations, but highly alerted of the actions of Democratic Administrations. I saw a guy driving down the road the other day in a big red truck, he had a sign in the window about 2'x2' and it read, "Obama Sucks". I think these people should be taken seriously, but in reality I cannot understand their stance. They are essentially going to protest everything Obama proposes at this point. I think they are a heavily polarised group, much like many far left anti-war groups. However, the comparison is different. A vast majority of Bush policy decisions were obviously failures and/or errors. The Obama Administration has not had much of a chance to produce results before the tea party protesters started up. I mean if you judged President Bush from just is first year you would be leaving so much out. One could also propose that the tea party movement can also be attributed to the rise in the popularity of libertarianism. (Ron Paul)

Here is possibly how. http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/sao/guest/knebe/

Yeah most of colonial America, except every state south of the Mason Dixon Line, Texas and east of. Well I wouldn't say it was a few landowners, considering there were around 3.9 million slaves by 1860, so a few? Each of the landowners controlled 300,000 slaves or what. The truth is there were many slave owners in the south, not just a few. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States And I looked up that article, I liked it. But look I don't support everything the North did, but the South wasn't right either. Both sides made the wrong moves and it ended up being the bloodiest war in American History. Although it was a bloody war, I think it was a key part in the History of the United States, cementing the states as part of one Union, indivisible.

Diameter of Earth is 12,756.2 kilometers "If you take the above number and multiply it by 108 you get 1,377,669.6 km that is about 20,000 kilometers off, or about 1.5 diameters of the earth off." Diameter of sun is 1,391,000 kilometers take sun divided by earth and you get around 108, its like 109 ish so that part is somewhat accurate. diameter of moon is 3,474.8 kilometers distance between moon and earth is 384,403 Km do the same thing, divide and you get around 110. So its off by a bit there, plus its good to note that the moon is moving away from us very slowly, so a set in stone number like 108 will get ever less accurate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon I'm not going to do the last one, because I think you can, but by the way this is not totally accurate, if you consider that the orbits of these objects are elliptical, therefore there are fluctuations in the distances between these objects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_unit Usually nothing in nature is mathematically that pretty. So that 108 thing, is around right, but not totally right and really a slew of numbers such as 115- 105 could be put forth and have the same point, and be considered by some as accurate, especially if thrown into a poem like you sited. It is easy to twist numbers, by just changing them a little.

I agree, I think the bio-hazard would be the best out of all the choices on a t-shirt. I think as a website logo, the text should be to right the side, not the bottom. You know, now that I think about it, even though I voted for mine, I have come to the conclusion that I like the biohazard the most. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged I mean really, the biohazard logo, is just balls to the wall awesome.

Particles behave like waves until observed or measured, so yes at some level it does physically take place. Again I reference the double slit experiment. From there you can go by the different interpretations. A widely accepted one is the Copenhagen Interpretation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

I think capital punishment is a different issue. Slaves had no choice in becoming slaves. People on death row are convicted in a court of law because they have committed crimes of the worst form. (Not always, but it is what we hope from our justice system) Universal Healthcare is a somewhat comparable issue. However I don't think we should comment on it here, maybe a new thread?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipedalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skeletal_changes_due_to_bipedalism Can it get really any easier than that?

Have you ever heard of the double slit experiment? That video may seem juvenile but it is accurate. Also I think Richard Feynman was the one responsible for the Sum over histories. Every system takes every possible path (or history) from A to B. You might also want to look up superposition. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_integral_formulation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality

/me glares at you.

Well our language is very well adapted at allowing us to communicate ideas and thoughts. Humans also are very well adapted at copying, so I don't think it is as hard to copy a thought process as you may think.

Haha so you decided to use the one with the light glow or did that happen by accident?

It is good to point out that Jefferson initially wanted to abolish slavery. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson#On_slavery And in all reality indentured servitude is just as bad as slavery. In a sense it is practically slavery through economic restraints. So I am not quite understanding what your pointing out. That outlawing of indentured servitude was not as justified as outlawing slavery? (in the 13th amendment) Well some would argue that the south did not have a better idea, because the legislation for the abolishment of slavery failing over and over again in all these southern states, and in Virginia as you pointed out. Plus it is good to note that this made the United States appear as somewhat a brutish country to other comparable countries such as Great Britain. They abolished slavery in 1833, without a war, and started a movement to outlaw slavery worldwide called Anti-Slavery International a few years later. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833 There were many other countries, which abolished slavery long before the United States did, and many without wars like Canada, Mexico, Bolivia, Prussia, Russia, and more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline The point is the Southern States were a long way off from abolishing slavery and were already far behind much of the civilized world in doing so. I also like to point out that I followed your link and I just wanted to let you know you quoted a guy from a civil war forum, named kevin. Who, by the way, showed no credible links to back up his claims. I'm not saying all of what he says is wrong, what I am saying is maybe its best to only quote forums when really necessary, and not using that as proof of a historical event, as you did. I will agree the religious differences, cultural differences, and political differences were all on heightened alert. The differences between the North and the South certainly did extend beyond slavery. Good points to make. Totally agree, the South believed in States rights, and although that may have implied slavery to some degree, they did not gas millions of people and they also didn't attempt to invade any other countries. Robert E. Lee for example is no where comparable to anyone in the SS. Also the Nazi's did what they did in the 1930's and 1940's, the Confederate States have the argument of 'different times' on their side somewhat, but if it was known throughout the world that what the Nazi's were doing to many of their own citizens (Jews, Homosexuals, and other minority groups) it would have been completely unjustified even at that time.

Good point Moon, it really doesn't matter what type of system it is, what matters is that a few people gain control of that system and use it for just what you described.

That was the headline on the front page of Fox.com at the time that I linked to this article. There were several other forums/ websites that commented on the article and mentioned the headline that was featured on the Fox.com homepage. http://cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=mofo&thread=4955&page=1#52578 http://forum.gatorsports.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=991&p=14403 http://story.newsclicker.com/index.cgi?id001=mjmjtucart7apom&ADN&pub-5921050296885253 http://knowthebuzz.com/2010/04/06/obama-no-nukes-even-in-defense/

Even though they were morally wrong, were the confederate solder's any less American? I think you can celebrate their service without celebrating their cause. Plus it is somewhat unfair to imply that Confederate solders were on the wrong side of the fight, or fighting for slavery. Sure it was pro-slavery state governments that seceded from the union, but many of the 'boys in gray' were fighting against the North because the North invaded the South. Just an interesting tidbit, to inform the reader, when Abraham Lincoln made the Emancipation Proclamation, he only freed the slaves south of the Mason Dixon line. This was to an appeal to the border states that were still sided with the union, but in reality had huge slave based economies. This was to make sure they didn't secede as well.

Well lets hope so for the sake of our planet.