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Did "we?" Who is "we?" Why not ask that question instead? That is a different question. "The imitation game," film right? If you ever visit Bletchley Park one of the first things they will tell you is that, the film good as it was, may not have represented the actual events of WW2.

The moderate exposure literature on line seems to be Vit D focused rather than reduced cancer risk. Only a brief search so far though. One interesting point is that SOC (skin of colour) does have reduced risk but can be harder to detect especially with Afro Caribbean. So SOC present with stage 3 or 4 - ref open bmj - I'll forward some citations tomorrow.

May I ask why @HawkII ? I think I have been respectful so far?

Fair enough. At the risk of repeating myself can I have the chapter and verse where he said that please?

Yes and I gave you chapter and verse. I have given you multiple citations from the NT where the text explicitly states that there will be signs AFTER Jesus. Luke, Matthew, Acts and pretty much the entire book of The Apocalypse of John. So this contradicts what you said about there being no signs after Jesus. It would be nice if you acknowledged that point and demonstrate you are posting in good faith. A

Possibly, I don't know, anything to back that up? Any Studies?

Just tell us which version, these are available to check. My point was that you said there will be no more signs after Jesus, when in fact the NT is full of statements about signs after Jesus. Even Jesus said there will be signs after Jesus.

I would check out "The Ancestor's tale" by Richard Dawkins. 4 billion years of evolutionary history.

That is a different question, you did say gene pool initially. I think that has been answered. Is the question ore about keeping people alive for longer and keeping more people alive? What impact that will have on the planet long term? That is a broader question. At some point our resources will start to run out and we are already using more than the planet will give, sustainably. https://populationmatters.org/news/2024/03/global-resources-dwindling-as-demand-rises/

Obviously not, the temple was destroyed in 70CE As have we all, that is why we can cite the relevant chapter and verse. I forgot this this from Acts, the author of Luke is thought to have also penned acts. “I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.” Acts 2:19–20

Except for Matthew 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. and vs 4,5,6 and 7. the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. a few more till vs 29 which is a big one Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: and finally finished with the famous. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. and Luke 21:20 20“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. and vs 25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near. Also is not the Apocalypse of John one big sign? An entire book?

You do this before a colonoscopy, restricted diet, then fast, a prep to flush you out followed by the colonoscopy itself. A very unpleasant experience which I cannot imagine being great for gut health either.

Anything they want if they exist. Can you cite the book/Chapter? I don't know that one.

Has charity been explored enough? Between the dark ages and today? I am certain we had good people walking around in the 12th C, rich and poor, good Samaritans, who wanted to assist the poor. However today we have globally organised charities with multi media marketing. I think we can add to the list of why IM was so much higher back then.

As did you, the title of the graph was Global life expectancy, not "Rich people life expectancy." Even though we have wars technology beneficial to human health gets passed around where possible and there is money available. We can always do better, perhaps the rich should do more? The fact is GLOBAL life expectancy has increased so some better off countries like my own are doing something right somewhere.

As per my post in the other thread the West donates to third world countries in terms of money, people and technologies.

That does not seem to be the case. As science and technology expands and improves so does our Life expectancy. Examples from the other thread.

You are not reading the replies. They are not different they are VERY closely related in terms of morphology and genetics. So close in terms of morphology that they share the same taxa all the way up to genus. Humans and chimps are both Eukaryotes, we are animals, embryo has a notochord, we suckle our young, we are primates, we are Hominidae so we have large brains, no tails, extend child care among other things AND we are about 98-99% genetically similar. That's closer than mice and rats (both rodents and 85%-90% similar genetically) or Indian and African Elephants (about 95% genetically similar) Chimps and baboons are about 91-93% similar. So, emphatically no, they are not different, they are closest cousins on the planet. Last post to you on this so as not to derail further.

Is what people trained in STEM have yes, you are on a STEM platform. I will keep saying it, put down the pseudoscientific nonsense books by the likes of Ken Wheeler and read an actual text book on science. If you are interested in learning science that is.

Leonard Susskind has done a decent series called the "Theoretical minimum," lots of other books on this subject and Taylor and Wheeler, "Space-time physics," is often recommended on physics sites. That Wheeler is John Archibald Wheeler the eminent physicist, just to be clear.

That was exactly my point to Sethoflagos.

These are best estimates, how well do we trust data regarding third world countries on anything? Is your point regarding LEB and IM is wrong in these areas? Is that your error bar? About 20%, is that too large to extract meaningful information about the population of Nigeria? Before the Human Genome project was completed we were taught that the number of coding genes were in the region of 25,000 (today around 20,000) my good friend was studying physics at the same time and the age of the universe was thought to be between 8-16 billion years old, a factor of two difference. Closer to home we have the Hubble tension, 10% difference between the two numbers, two approaches. It is an issue hence tension BUT it is also useful and is an active area research.

One can be distrustful of data relating to populations, populations are messy, biology is messy. How many people contracted COVID in 2020? How Many died? How many died in 1918 of Spanish flu? What is the world population today? What was it 500 years ago? We can only work with the evidence and data we have, so the population and IM in Nigeria are always going to be best estimates like any other population data. The question is, can we do anything useful with that data? Is it complete untrustworthy? Are we able to tease out anything meaningful? You do not think the government data specifically does not reflect the real number in Nigeria? Ok, what about the W.H.O? C.D.C? Reading Hamlets (specifically Nigeria) and other scientific organizations and NGOs who have offices in those countries? We are not talking about one data set here, programmes relating to disease control, clean water, literacy in Africa rely on statistics of this kind to target resources efficiently. Scientific studies in the area relating to HIV, EBOLA, Marburg, death from malnutrition, Malaria, malnourishment require accurate population data.

Thanks for clarifying, as you can see sub Sahara is not the place to have kids statistically speaking. Also worth noting that Africa receives around 60 billion dollars in foreign aid every year so LEB and IM would be bleaker and even closer to dark age figures if that was removed. 2.6 trillion estimated since 1960 (a Google search) So my comparison still stands. Already done by Linnaeus and Blumenbach 250 years ago, we are in the same taxa as Pan troglodytes up to genus.

It is a science forum specifically so we are going to give arguments based on studies, published work, material from text books and information we gained at Uni.