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Sure about the bold part' date=' but if matter were "flying" for an infinite amount of time then it would cover an infinite amount of distance.

 

Also like I said in the last post, what is the division between these two universes? A physical wall?!? Or another dimension?[/quote']

 

A physical wall...which you could pass through, not sure how you'd get back if you were within the frame of a blackhole.

 

You would still exist as you were a part of that frame but if you were to try and come out your situation wouldn't reverse, you'd shift to compensate from a contracting frame to an expanding frame.

 

If you (hypothetically had the energy to escape a blackhole) you would spread over space-time and theoretically would still exist (if relativity still held), but you wouldn't be much use to anyone. You would be a unique entity...needless to say not even light can escape, so to ponder over exiting this contracting universe is irrelevant.

one has never known love, one cannot know hate.

I'm sure you realise that someone is perfectly capable of feeling hate without knowing love.

You're also basing your argument on a personal situation, which should imply a broader consideration of the topic...otherwise you're just being narrow minded. Not meaning to be rude, but that's how you're coming across.

What did you want out of this thread? Someone to tell you if this is possible or not?

Yes.

I actually hate using the 'parallel universe' term as it almost seems like a cop out. But if it's possible to exist in one and observe the effects of the other then it does appear that there are two universes tightly woven with one contracting the other expanding.

The singularity never happens just as all matter doesn't fly out at an infinite rate. How can you have someting of infinite mass...that would mean more energy is created by a black hole than the amount of energy that's passed into it...essentially energy from nothing. Matter does not dissappear or materialize it simply changes state...though I'm sure you're aware of that. I guess this may seem sceptical to most, but logically it works.

Ok, sorry if it seemed like a babble, but my idea is that the universe is expanding and a parallel universe is contracting. The two have direct effects on the other in regards to gravity...making it a weak force.

The universe contracting still holds to the laws of relativity with regards to my explanation in the first post...black holes are an example of this contraction. With the two fighting as one expands and one contracts a singularity is not formed and the expansion is slow enough to create uniform shapes.

I realise the first premise can't be true as the forces in an atom a far stronger than gravity for a particle to collapse at the start of the big bang.

That's an interesting idea...but not what I'm getting at, as we can observe the effects of a black hole...it's contraction.

I guess you think I mean that the observations of our universe from inside a black hole would be a mirrored version of our observations from outside a black hole. Though I'm not sure how that would work. There simply wouldn't be such a thing as a black hole if inside one, as our universe is expanding.

Sorry ignore the 'our universe would seem like black holes' in my first post...I'm at work, so thinking aloud as it were. I don't have much time to think and post so apologies, my premise needs ironing out.

Is it possible for a particle to collapse under gravity if it's energy is finite. I was thinking of this in relation to the beginning of the universe...in that the size of an object could be very small to create a black hole in proportion to other matter in the early universe and the gravitational forces acting upon this matter.

As a star holding finite energy burns out and can no longer support itself under the effects of gravity it creates a black hole (dependant on it's mass), and as the laws of relativity still hold true...eg an outside observer would see someone entering a black hole skew and break up but the person in the black hole would not notice these effects as his composition (for want of a better word) is still relative to the laws inside the black hole...what if these effects happend at the start of the universe before uniform objects formed.

What I mean is, would it be possible for a universe to exist under the laws of a black hole...which would essentially make our universe appear as black holes in that universe...or I guess no black holes. If thermal dynamics still holds in black holes then the (how it appears to us) contraction of that universe would be relative to the expansion of our universe.

For this to take place then the events would have to of happend around the time of the big bang if not instantaneous to the big bang, I'm thinking the expansion of our universe could maybe slow the contraction of the other universe into not forming a singularity...and so holding information.

Feel free to rip this apart, I have the idea in my head but I'm finding it quite hard to iterate my thoughts.

You can't have a quick fix to such a complicated issue, and you are in no position to judge how sentinent a retarded person is, unless you can see the world through their eyes. The fact you noticed your brother has become depressed surely shows he holds a level of emotion and cognition.

I can't fully relate with your position, and I understand it must be hard work, but I'm shocked you have this attitude towards the handicapped, especially a member of your family.

My Mum used to teach a class of children with varying disabilities who I had the pleasure to spend the day with, and they were a delight to be with...and as YT2095 has stated it's a humbling and I feel needed experience.

I realise the debate is concentrating on the mentally challenged, but I'm wondering, if you personally dictated who has the right to live...going by (from what I've read) face value, where would someone like Stephen Hawking be now ?

If anyone, (and I don't really believe this, but have thought about it) deserves eradication, it's the people who are perfectly fit and able to provide for society, and just can't be bothered and would rather feed off society. However I believe everyone has a right to live as you can never truly know what potential they have, and I feel there is a lesson to be learnt from any individual.

Why do snails like to stay on top of the container???

Hello Christina, do you look after snails...if so which breed ? I own an achatina fulica (which is huge) and another breed which I can't seem to distinguish as the eggs are very similar, but they are clearly smaller with a more vibrant pattern on their shells.

Quite a long story why I decided to look after snails...I get a very mixed reaction when people see them.

Do I hear distant pan pipes ? That's all very nice, but my preference is to eat some cheese (only a small amount) maybe a raw or pickled chilli, and quaff some red wine before going to bed...I hasten to add I don't do this every night, but it has 95% success with me.

The dream always starts nightmarish, say I find myself in a dark house with rotting walls, and there's always this foreboding fear that something is really not right...usually friends and family are involved and are in some kind of peril.

Then I step in with all my lucid capabilities and always have the ability to fly, have incredible strength or dexterity, am telepathic and have the ability to move huge objects with my mind...it even goes to the point in my dreams that I'm omnipotent and start shaping the environment to help the people who are in trouble (as though I am the environment and nothing can touch me.) I always seem to defeat whatever lurking fear is in the dream...and I always make the enemy in my dreams more disturbing and awesome looking as the dream progresses...as though it's constantly morphing to outdo me.

Occasionally I can't control the dream from the outset and have had a couple of waking nightmares where I can't shake the atmosphere of the dream for a good few hours after waking up. There were a couple I recently experienced that were so disturbing that I wondered how my brain could conceive such horrible events, they also flowed like a well scripted dialouge (as opposed to a jumble of disjointed events where the cognition of your surroundings fills in the gaps), and made films like The Ring (off the top of my head) seem as ominous as Toy Story 2.

I do have many pleasant dreams, some are so topical and dull that I chuckle when I wake up...like dreaming of brushing my teeth. I find it interesting how such a simple thing as eating a dairy product has an almost psychoactive response when unconcious...albeit not everybodies cup of tea. I guess I enjoy the experience of being totally invincible which is funny because I consider myself anti-macho.

I clearly feel exhausted after lucid dreaming as already noted, but it's not so much the duration of the dream that tires you out, but the amount of activity the brain is enduring. Dreams are fleeting, if you piece your dream together you could probably only recollect a handful of brief scenes that loosely connect to each other...in most cases.

I used to suffer from sleep paralysis when I used to have afternoon naps in my teens...my experiences are very similar to other accounts I've read. I'd feel my body relax, and breathing slow until I was paralyzed and would dream with my eyes still open. I could see my room and there would always be a figure on my bed, or hands coming out of my bed which would grab hold of me and I would concentrate on my arm or leg to move, to break out of the paralysis. It was quite scary at first but I learnt to enjoy sleep paralysis.

Maybe you're just not photogenic, and as Phi for All pointed out it all depends on light, angle et.c

Light / shadow can accentuate or diminish features which could look good at certain angles, but can also make you look hideous. I'm not particularly photogenic but I've heard the contrary face to face (hard to say without sounding vain.)

Keep trying I guess until you're happy with a result that flatters you're appearance. The paparazzi (especially UK tabloids) are masters at catching celebrities on 'off days' and making them look at lot worse than usual.

The camera never lies, but it can bend the truth. Providing there's no post editing.

Along the same vein...I particulary like cats on cat, enjoy

http://www.stuffonmycat.com/

A friend of mine showed me this...genius.

http://catsinsinks.com/

Google 'Sir Roger Penrose' (Rouse Ball professor of mathematics at Oxford University) he worked closely with Stephen Hawking (though both have clearly different stand-points on this subject) and is arguing the case of a quantum consciousness. It deals with macroscopic phenomena and the role of microtubules. As for mathematical models of consciousness...not yet, it's still hard to define philosophically let alone mathematically.

My house mate who had excess ear wax was told by the doctor to pour a little olive oil into his ear, wait a few minutes and then squirt it out with warm water. He told me the results were fantastic. I can't say I was to fussed about viewing the ...results, but thought you may be interested.

I'm sure there's a whole host of alternative methods to using pharmaceuticals, it's a shame there's a lack of research in this field. I'm not going to start ranting about huge profit making companies having hold of what research is funded, and the depletion of the rain forests et.c...opps I just did.

Those 2 links are the same :S

I guess the crew are in the navy

im planning on building a new computer and when i got the os part i thought about linux. should i just install linux or go with xp? if linux which version would be best.

Will you be using a 64bit processor ?

Thank you for being at least semi-reasonable. And forgive me if I am not making sense' date=' I am alittle "drunk" right now and its hard to think with my higher brain at this time. Hehe. [/quote']

offtopic...

Well I've been guilty of doing some late night posts after the pub et.c Someone always replies before I have time to delete it in the morning !

 

I've decided to stick to viewing as opposed to posting if intoxicated...besides there's a dozen other things I'd rather be doing when drunk.

 

A drunken philosophy thread could prove to be quite humorous though...a tip of the hat, to the speech at the end of Team America.

Hey ID guys' date=' I guess it was Gods perfect plan to have all these genetic deseases like the one shown below. What about viruses, rogue DNA gone wild? I guess we are forgetting Hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis, sun flares, and I will throw in a few killer asteroids for good measure to prove that the earth is far from a stable and nice place. I dont type these things to offend you, but to make you think.

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Have you considered the effects on population if there was no disease, natural disasters, the effect this would have on our resources et.c. I'm certainly not a follower of ID or religion, but this is a weak argument.

This maybe way off the mark...but I was thinking, to achieve instantaneous states you need to pass information before hand.

With regards to particles there is a slight pause whilst this information is passed.

A simple analogy would be two people performing a synchronized event, they would pass information before hand so they could synchronize their actions. I'm not sure if there's any correlation there ?

Just a fleeting thought. If a particle behaves according to the response of another distant particle...'it can change the direction of spin', there must be some form of communication between the two.

Clobetasol is indeed a glucocorticosteroid' date=' as are most of the steroids used medically. Clobetasol is effective in treating eczema flare ups, though you only need to use a small amount.

 

Definitely not recommended to use steroids to promote hair growth, unless you want your skin to thin etc. If your house mate is worried about hair loss, he can try minoxidil (Regaine, available from pharmacies), or if that doesn't work his doctor could prescribe finasteride 1mg tabs (Propecia) on a private prescription (and will cost around £25-£30 per month).[/quote']

 

I was joking, but I'll be sure to pass on your advice. I think he needs a fine tipped pen and some patience...(he's an exceptional artist.)

Right...I managed to get a good definition.

A steroid is a type of lipid...an organic compund that is soluble in nonpolar organic solvents, but not water e.g fats / oils et.c

In humans steroids are secreted from the testes or ovaries, the adrenal gland and the placenta.

Many steroids are biologically active hormones that control the bodies metabolic processes...including testosterone / estrogen. The steroid hormones from the adrenal cortex include glucocorticoids such as cortisone (which I believe is my area of interest with regards to the cream I use) and cortisol.

The cream I currently use (very occasionaly) is clobetasol propionate...and is a high potency corticosteroid. Funnily enough it promotes hair growth...my house mate has started eyeing the tube

Corticoid reduces the bodies immune response and swelling, so that answers my question that eczema is similar to an allergy (hereditary though)

http://www.answers.com/topic/steroid

What I mean is

antibiotics...attack bacteria by interfering with the cell wall construction, or interferes with the bacterias energy transfer from glucose et.c

aspirin...thins the blood, and aids in preventing clots et.c

steroids....?

I'd like a little more detail than these explanations, especially the steroids explanation

Glider you're clearly the expert in this field, I'd be very grateful for some insight

It was either incorrect or you misread it... or it was playing with some stupid technicality which confused most people! Either way finding it won't help much! It'd be a better use of time would be learning what is right!

I gave up after about 5 minutes !!!!

I spose this site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

is quite good. Ask if you don't understand and we can tell you' date=' I'll look for other sites.[/quote']

 

Thanks for the help 5614, I was kinda looking for something with a bit more detail than wiki...I'm going to have a quick scan as well, cheers

If the information cannot be sent faster than c then how could it possibly be instantaniouse?

 

Neutron stars = cool example of pauli exclusion in action! kinda...

Well it can't...hence my confusion. Like I said, from what I can remember reading, this was how it was put...and as you've pointed out it's nonsensical.

I'll try and find the article...I read it from a load of printouts lying around roughly a year ago.