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Mnem, I tend to agree with you except that perhaps some guy named Jesus existed, but not as we now recognize him. There are records, but huge gaps in the Bible about him- thats what seems so fishy about his story. Crazy as it sounds, I actually know a medical doctor who believes jesus walked on water. People believe this silliness.

Clearly, this can go on forever, entertaining all of us members, but back to the original title of the thread, one can not believe both tenets, Bible(Religion) AND Science. You can not cherry pick Bible/religion, say, how man was created by God 5000 years ago and at the same time support evolution of man, for example. Numerous other examples. You have to make a choice.

I agree, Mig. to 99% of what you say. But as far as "support the Church may give them", that can be achieved by non "Church" institutions. Churches do not have a monopoly on charity. They would seem to want to aggressively protect that image, but we do not need "Churches". A Church's primary purpose if to worship some type of God from some type of religion.

1) Anyone who has as their signature (quote??) , which is an opportunity , in a sentence or 2, to portray just a bit of your identity , a quote from the Bible, a book which has no credibility, is telling. 2) Whats a CV? Dont expect all of us to be familiar with your code. 3) Reputation goes far beyond publishing- you earn it over time, and it is not earned (in Biology, at least) if one goes around embracing Bible bunk, and (again) teaching it to "cute" children. In my opinion, all kids are cute, by the way. Dont take advantage of them, unless you wish to be in the company of so many wicked vile Bible hugging priests. 4) Darwin?? Really? Have you truly studies Darwin's life (not to mention the life of his wife)? ( You) give me (and the rest of us here) a break. While his wife, which he adored so very much despite her strong religious beliefs, was a God believer, he was not. And he had to tread very carefully within the scientific community, and not to offend anyone with his monumental discoveries. That does in no way make him complicit by default that he believed in any Gods. Leave Darwin out of this. This is in part, about the credibility of the bogus Bible, and any such God, and Religious cults, and to the original question about science and religion. The Bible's credibility did not have to wait for Darwin- Galileo and others took care of that a few centuries earlier. 5) You dont have to be obligated to us here in this forum to prove anything, as I said, you make your own bed, and if you wish to keep on being a scientist hugging a Bible, clinging onto , and defending the untenable status of one or more of the 3 major religious cults, you are free to do so. But dont expect the highest degree of respect from peers in the scientific community. 6) YES, you are obligated to prove the existence of God if you state a claim of such a belief, or join the company of Charlatans, Healers, Priests, Popes, Pastors, Politicians, Shamans, Rabbis, Imams, etc. In science, you make a claim, prove it. Am I the only one who ever heard of this concept?

To reply to the original question , and just in my opinion, yes, one can be a scientist and still believe in Religion (one of the 3 major religions), but one may not have much of a reputation, especially if your field is in Bio. Assuming also that believing in a religion, by default, one must believe that there is a God, and your choices are Allah, or Jehovah (Jehovah is for both Christians and Jews). Which one is the true God, no one knows. Let alone the minor religions, which may include a few hundred different Gods. By "believing in religion", you make your own bed- you believe in a God. Make that claim, and the burden of proof is on you to prove it, and to prove it to young tender children to whom this malarkey is taught, not to be questioned by them. There is no credible proof of any God. I used to believe- I bowed. knelt, prayed with dutiful obedience, with servitude. For 50 years. Got tired of it eventually. I read one too many books, people.