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  1. I saw on the news how some suspects in countries with little regard for human rights are tortured with plastic bags over their heads until they pass out, then revived back again and this process repeated. It kept me awake at night thinking about it because I feel like the sheer number of times this could happen would be one of the worst forms of torture. My question is this: Can a person who is healthy and is force fed, be tortured until death from old age? Let's say that heart rate monitors were applied so as to make sure that the tortured victim doesn't die from heart failure. How long can it go on? What if the individual was not knocked to the point of unconsciousness and therefore no brain death? Would the individual still lose brain cells and thus, eventually brain death (albeit a long one)? I was wondering that maybe waterboarding would be even worse because there is no real asphyxiation and thus no brain damage and thus no chance of death. Heck, there could even be a simple machine that pours water intermittently even without anyone there to do anything! A device that pours water for a few seconds and stops.... The machine stops when the heart rate monitor beeps. The victim is force fed by having an IV solution into their veins so they're well fed. Oh my imagination is just too wild. Please save me from myself, I can't sleep.
  2. No, perhaps I should have made it clear. Those other references are NOT for the article I am talking about. Those are his other publications that I got from http://archived.parapsych.org/psiexplorer/michaelpersinger.htm. If you had a look at the main article which I was talking about, http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_10_4_krippner.pdf, You would see that it is Berger, R. E., & Persinger, M. A. (1991). Geophysical variables and behavior: LXVII. Quieter annual geomagnetic activity and larger effect size for experimental psi (ESP) studies over six decades. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 73, 12 19. Churchill, D. R., Persinger, M. A., & Thomas, A. W. (1994). Geophysical variables and behavior: LXXVII. Increased geomagnetic activity and decreased pleasantness of spontaneous narra- tives for percipients but not for agents. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 79,387. Edge, H. L., Morris, R. L., Palmer, J., & Rush, J. H. (1986). Foundations of Parapsychology. London: Routledge & Kegan Paul. Gurney, E., Myers, E W. H., & Podmore, F. (1886). Phantasms of the Living (2 vols.). London: Trubner. Krippner, S., & Ullman, M. (1970). Telepathy and dreams: A controlled experiment with electro- encephalogram-electro-oculogram monitoring. Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 15 1, 394. Mayaud, P. M. (1 973). A hundred-year series of geomagnetic data 1868- 1967. IAGA Bulletin No. 33. Murphy, M. (1992). The Future of the Body: Explorations into the Future Evolution of Human Nature. Los Angeles: Jeremy P. Tarcher. Persinger, M. A. (1987). Spontaneous telepathic experiences from phantasms of the living and low global geomagnetic activity. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 8 1, 23. Persinger, M. A. (1988). Increased geomagnetic activity and the occurrence of bereavement hallu- cinations: Evidence of melatonin-mediated microseizuring in the temporal lobe? Neuro- science Letters, 88,27 1. Persinger, M. A. (1989). Psi phenomena and temporal lobe activity: The geomagnetic factor. In L. A. Henkel & R. E. Berger (Eds.), Research in Parapsychology, 1988, 121. Metuchen, NJ: Scarecrow Press. Persinger, M. A. (1993). Geophysical variables and behavior: LXXI. Differential contributions of geomagnetic activity to paranormal experiences concerning death and crisis: An alternative to the ESP hypothesis. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 76,555. Persinger, M. A., & Krippner, S. (1989). Dream ESP experiments and geomagnetic activity. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 83, 101. Persinger, M. A., & Schaut, G. B. (1988). Geomagnetic factors in subjective telepathic, precogni- tive, and postmortem experiences. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 82,217. Dreams and Distant Target Material 493 Randall, W., & Randall, S. (1991). The solar wind and hallucinations - a possible relation due to magnetic disturbances. Bioelectromagnetics, 12,67. Rao, K. R., & Palmer, J. (1987). The anomaly calledpsi: Recent research and criticism. Behav- ioral and Brain Sciences, 10,539. Rhine, L. E. (1977). Research methods with spontaneous cases. In B. B. Wolman (Ed.), Hand- book of Parapsychology, 59. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold. Schaut, G. B., & Persinger, M. A. (1985). Subjective telepathic experiences, geomagnetic activity and the ELF hypothesis. Part I. Data analysis. Psi Research 4, 1,4. Spottiswoode, S. J. P. (1991). Geomagnetic activity and anomalous cognition: A preliminary re- port of new evidence. Subtle Energies, 1,9 1. Ullman, M., & Krippner, S. (1 969). An experimental approach to dreams and telepathy: 11. A re- port of three studies. American Journal of Psychiatry 126, 1282. Ullman, M., & Krippner, S. (1970). A laboratory approach to the nocturnal dimension of paranor- mal experience: Report of a confirmatory study using the REM monitoring technique. Biolog- ical Psychiatry, 1,259. Ullman, M., & Krippner, S., with Vaughan, A. (1989). Dream Telepathy: Experiments in Noctur- nal ESP. Jefferson, NC: McFarland. Wilkinson, H., & Gauld, A. (1993). Geomagnetism and anomalous experiences, 1868-1980. Pro- ceedings of the Society for Psychical Research, 57,275.
  3. I know, telepathy hasn't been proven and I'm a skeptic on the matter as well. However, Michael Persinger posited a theory: In 1974 Michael Persinger proposed that extremely low-frequency (ELF) electromagnetic waves may be able to carry telepathic and clairvoyant information. Here is the Research article I'm talking about: http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_10_4_krippner.pdf These are his other publications regarding ESP. Notice that he remains strong in his theory from 1975 to 1993 (See Below). His recent lecture http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9l6VPpDublg#t=248 (I have set the URL at the time he speaks about telepathic experiences and low geomagnetic storms). So we can probably say that until now, he hasn't changed his mind about it. If you have any articles you need further examining, it can all be downloaded here. https://neurocogconsultants.app.box.com/s/l9f7tld3yjny4b00eqbq What I find it alluring is that he, along with Stanley Krippner, suggests that it is true. Why has nobody tried to replicate his data? They tried replicating his 'God Helmet'and it came out to be a miserable fail. Why does nobody bother to try his theory out, along with his Techtonic Strain Theory? From Wikipedia (Michael Persinger) Persinger has also come to public attention due to his 1975 Tectonic Strain Theory (TST) of how geophysical variables may correlate with sightings of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) or Marian apparitions. Persinger argued that strain within the Earth's crust near seismic faults produces intense electromagnetic (EM) fields, creating bodies of light that some interpret as glowing UFOs or The Virgin Mary. Alternatively, he argued that the EM fields generate hallucinations in the temporal lobe, based on images from popular culture, of alien craft, beings, communications, or creatures. In the UK, Paul Devereux advocates a variant geophysical theory similar to TST, the Earthlights theory. However, unlike Persinger, Devereaux generally restricts such effects to the immediate vicinity of a fault line. Devereux's approach also differs from Persinger's in holding triboluminescence rather than piezoelectricity as the "more likely candidate" for the production of naturally occurring UFOs. Devereux doesn't advocate, as in Persinger's TST, that the phenomenon might create hallucinations of UFO encounters in people, instead proposing an even more radical hypothesis: that earthlights may possess intelligence and even have the ability to read witness' thoughts.[18] Persinger's claims regarding the effects of environmental geomagnetic activity on paranormal experiences have not been independently replicated and, like his findings regarding the God helmet, may simply be explained by the suggestibility of participants.[3] Do many theories (in general) never get tested? It just then remains a hypothesis doesnt it? If a PHD (Persinger) creates and holds onto a theory for 40 years, and is the crux of most of his arguments, and he is established in the field, shouldn't it receive some attention to replicate it? I am talking about both his theory about his Techtonic Strain Theory and his Geomagnetic ESP theory. What I do find alluring is that he posits his theory about Telepathy in 1974, which coincides with Stanley Krippner's release of his book about Dream Telepathy 1974 - Dream Telepathy: Experiments in Nocturnal ESP (with Montague Ullman and Alan Vaughan). (Macmillan) - From Wikipedia (Stanley Krippner). It means that Persinger tried to data mine the data that correlated with his newly formed hypothesis (back in 1974). That's why you realise that after Krippner's experiments have been done, Persinger looks for patterns. Maybe he is not counting the Misses (fails) of when telepathy was successful and geomagnetic fields were high. Which would mean that he could make excuses as to why it didn't work, because of other variables that could have gone into play. I know that correlation does not imply causation and other variables could induce the non successiveness of his theory (by either being psi hits on high geomagnetic storm days/low to no hits on low geogmagetic storm days), which would make it very complicated indeed. I know that PSI CAN NOT a material phenomena, if it ever was true, because it defies all the laws of physics and neuroscience, which would mean his ELF theory AND his Low Geogmagnetic Storm Theory would be meaningless since then, it would have to do with the physical world and materialism, I just find it really so difficult to understand his psychology. Maybe he is right? I have no grasp of quantum mechanics but from what I have read, it really cannot be applied to the macro world. So am I correct as to say that his recent research (on the youtube video, that he's demonstrated telepathy and he uses quantum mechanics), and quantum mechanics, cannot be unified together? Because, he's talking about the apparent successes depending on geomagnetic storms (can this affect the quantum mechanics part in any way?) and he's talking about ELF waves carrying telepathic information (1974) which has nothing to do with quantum mechanics? (Or is he adding quantum mechanics now, as seen in the lecture, to his telepathy theory, because his 1974 theory without Quantum Mechanics didn't work?) He possibly can't be lying. He truly believes in his stuff and that's why he would keep researching and hold onto his theory for this long. If he KNOWS that his theory is false, then why would he keep researching and publishing the same theory? I just cannot understand his psychology. Sure, if you invested 30 years into it, then you would hold onto your beliefs (as you have your time and ego attatched to it as you sweat blood and tears doing meticulous research, and, the longer you have your beliefs, the longer you have your beliefs, the less likely you are to get rid of them. I personally know a lot about belief systems), but wouldn't you know that you're wrong, if you're wrong, and let it go? I mean, he's continuously kept his theory and researched it and published it, adding new data. Thus it must mean he is correct! Unless he has brain damage. I can understand if it becomes unfalsifiable and thus he believes in this theory, but this is SO falsifiable. You can test it and even ordinary people like you can me can test it so easily and it wouldn't be costly at all. Just look at the PSI Hit dates/times and see if it has any positive correlation with low/no geomagnetic storms! In fact, you don't even have to look at the previous data that was already done, like he did, scientists can start anew and get the worlds best remote viewers who worked in stargate (Thus knowing that we are talking with 'real' psychics here, since there are so many fakes and, if we were to pick some from the general public, they could just be fakers, but with stargate, you know that they had to be really good, consistently, in order to have gotten into the CIA's Stargate program in the first place). Even if he does show that his theory is true, and that telepathy is proven (like in his lecture and in Discovery Channel's 'Through the Wormhole' Do we have a sixth sense? (Do have a look, it takes 6 minutes to watch. http://vimeo.com/26137313 Start from minute 18 http://vimeo.com/26137313 Start from the beginning till minute 5), will he even get a chance to be noticed in the scientific mainstream and respectable scientific journals? Because of Darrel Bem's research about precognition got published in the Mainstream Scientific Journals, the reputation for that journal got heavily damaged. I doubt that future studies in ESP, no matter how good, will be taken seriously. There has been 150 years of research into this field and nothing of significance has been proven. How will he ever prove his point even if he did discover telepathy? (Ok, not 100% but, in line with his geomagnetic theories, with statistical meaning). So I know it's a long post but if you could answer some or all of my questions, that'd be great. Thanks Selected Publications: Persinger, M. A. (1993). Geophysical variables and behavior: LXXI. Differential contribution of geomagnetic activity to paranormal experiences concerning death and crisis: an alternative to the ESP hypothesis. Perceptual and Motor Skills Apr; 76(2): 555-62. Persinger, M. A. (1993). Paranormal and religious beliefs may be mediated differentially by subcortical and cortical phenomenological processes of the temporal (limbic) lobes. Perceptual and Motor Skills. Feb; 76(1): 247-51. Persinger, M.A. (1975). Geophysical models for parapsychological experiences. Psychoenergetic Systems, 1, 63-74. Persinger, M.A. (1976). The problems of human verbal behaviour: The final reference for measuring ostensible PSI phenomena. The Journal of Research in PSI Phenomena, 1,72-90. Persinger, M.A. (1979). ELF field mediation in spontaneous PSI events: direct information transfer or conditioned elicitation? Psychoenergetic Systems, 3, 155-169. Persinger, M.A. (1979). Behaviouristic descriptions of paranormal behaviors. Psychoenergetic Systems, 3, 229-242. Persinger, M.A. (1983). Religious and mystical experiences as artifacts of temporal lobe function: a general hypothesis. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 57, 1255-1262. Persinger, M.A. (1984). Propensity to report paranormal experiences is correlated with temporal lobe signs. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 59, 583-586. Persinger, M.A. (1985). Geophysical variables and behavior: XXII. The tectonogenic strain continuum of unusual events. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 60, 59-65. Schaut, G.B., & Persinger, M.A. (1985). Subjective telepathic experiences, geomagnetic activity and the ELF hypothesis: Part I. Data analyses. PSI Research, 4(1), 4-20. Persinger, M.A. (1985). Geophysical variables and human behavior: Intense paranormal experiences occur during days of quiet, global, geomagnetic activity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 61, 320-322. Persinger, M.A., & Valliant, P.M. (1985). Temporal lobe signs and reports of subjective paranormal experiences in a normal population: a replication. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 60, 903-909. Persinger, M.A. (1985). Subjective telepathic experiences, geomagnetic activity and the ELF hypothesis: Part II. Stimulus features and neural detection. PSI Research, 4(2), 4-23. Gearhart, L., & Persinger, M.A. (1986). Geophysical variables and human behavior. Onsets of historical and contemporary poltergeist episodes occurred with sudden increases in geomagnetic activity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 62, 463-466. Persinger, M.A., & Cameron, R.A. (1986). Earth faults in some poltergeist-like cases? Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 80, 49-73. Persinger, M.A. (1987). Spontaneous telepathic experiences from Phantasms of the Living and low global geomagnetic activity. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 81, 23-36. Makarec, K., & Persinger, M.A. (1987). Geophysical variables and behavior: XLII. Negative correlation between accuracy of card-guessing and geomagnetic activity: A case study. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 65, 105-106. Lewicki, D.R., Schaut, G.H., & Persinger, M.A. (1987). Geophysical variables and behavior: XLIV. Days of subjective precognitive experiences and the days before the actual events display correlated geomagnetic activity. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 65, 173-174. Persinger, M.A., & Schaut, G.B. (1988). Geomagnetic factors in subjective telepathic, precognitive and postmortem experiences. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 82, 217-235. Arango, M.A., & Persinger, M.A. (1988). Geophysical variables and behavior: LII. Decreased geomagnetic activity and spontaneous telepathic experiences from the Sidgwick collection. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 67, 907-910. Persinger, M.A., & Krippner, S. (1989). Experimental dream telepathy, clairvoyance and geomagnetic activity. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 83, 101-116. Persinger, M.A. (1989). Modern neuroscience and near-death experiences: expectancies and implications. Journal of Near-Death Studies, 7, 233-239. Persinger, M.A., & Fisher, S.D. (1990). Elevated, specific temporal lobe signs in a population engaged in psychic studies. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 71, 817-818. Berger, R.E., & Persinger, M.A. (1991). Geophysical variables and behavior: LXVII. Quieter annual geomagnetic activity and larger effect size for experimental PSI (ESP) studies over six decades. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 73, 1219-1223. Persinger, M.A. (1993). Geophysical variables and behavior: LXXI. Differential contribution of geomagnetic activity to paranormal experiences concerning death and crisis: An alternative to the ESP hypothesis. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 76, 555-562. Persinger, M.A. (1995). Out-of-body-like experiences are more probable in people with elevated complex partial epileptic-like signs during periods of enhanced geomagnetic activity: a nonlinear effect. Perceptual and Motor Skills, 80, 563-569.