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Poll: Are There more Stars than there are Atoms that create Earth? (1 member(s) have cast votes)

Are There more Stars than there are Atoms that create Earth?

  1. Yes (7 votes [41.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.18%

  2. No (10 votes [58.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.82%

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#1 mustang292

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 03:02 AM

I have heard many times that there are more Stars than there are grains of sand on every beach on the Earth.

Can we take that further and say there are more Stars than there are Atoms that create the Earth? :rolleyes: :confused: :eek:
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Posted 15 April 2005 - 05:37 AM

thats is a hard thing to think about. I voted no, but i dont knw. I just cant imagine there being more than atoms on earth, but then again...... :confused: its difficult to think about becase we know absolutely nothing about our universe (ok, just alittle)
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Posted 15 April 2005 - 05:50 AM

if it is not true at the moment that there are more atoms on the earth then there are stars in the universe then at some point there may be because the universe is expanding and new stars are being created and earth is staying at the same number of atoms it will always have. therefore at some point in the very very distant future(that is if our earth is around long enough to see it) there will eventually be enough stars to out number the atoms.
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 10:25 AM

Number of atoms in the Earth = 1.3 x 10^51. This is reasonably accurate.
[http://education.jla...thatom_05.html]
Number of stars in the Universe = 1.0 x 10^22. Conservative figure.
[http://www.thekeyboa...trial life.htm]
Number of stars in the Universe= 7.0 x 10^22. In the 'known Universe'.
[http://www.ufoindia....llionstars.htm]
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 11:44 AM

hmm, arnt we meant to have as many neurones as there are stars?
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 01:10 PM

Approx. the same as the number of stars in the galaxy: 100 billion.
http://hypertextbook...bahaliye2.shtml
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 03:21 PM

if it is not true at the moment that there are more atoms on the earth then there are stars in the universe then at some point there may be because the universe is expanding and new stars are being created and earth is staying at the same number of atoms it will always have. therefore at some point in the very very distant future(that is if our earth is around long enough to see it) there will eventually be enough stars to out number the atoms.


But stars are also dying, aren't they? The matter left over from supernovae is used to create new stars.
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 04:39 PM

hmm, arnt we meant to have as many neurones as there are stars?


If there were only as many stars as we have neurons, then that doesn't even come close to what I am suggesting.

Jut TRY and imagine more stars than atoms that make up the earth. It is truly astonishing. This is what I want to know if we can say.
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:40 PM

Mustang, does my post - number 4 - fail to answer this for you?
Known Universe - 70000000000000000000000 stars
Earth - 13000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 atoms.
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:57 PM

Mustang, does my post - number 4 - fail to answer this for you?
Known Universe - 70000000000000000000000 stars
Earth - 13000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000 atoms.


404 ERROR on all 3 links in your first post. Secondly, if that last one is from India Daily then, no, it is not a credible source at all.
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 06:21 PM

Approx. the same as the number of stars in the galaxy: 100 billion.
http://hypertextbook...bahaliye2.shtml

what are "glial" cells?
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 08:25 PM

404 ERROR on all 3 links in your first post. Secondly, if that last one is from India Daily then, no, it is not a credible source at all.

My apologies for not checking the links once they were within the post.

You may perhaps notice the problem is that the square bracket (close) has been incorporated into the url.

Here is the corrected set of links:

http://education.jlab.org/qa/mathatom_05.html

http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Extraterrestrial%20life.htm

http://www.ufoindia.org/news_70sextillionstars.htm



The last link is from a much more suspect source than India Daily: UFO India Organistion. That, however does not invalidate the datum. Perhaps you will find the same numbers more credible from this site.

http://www.spacenow.org.uk/index.cfm?code=expluni&subcode=article&recID=43



Unless you wish to consider the Universe infinite in extent, it seems there are around 10^28 atoms (Edit for clarity: "in the Earth" )for every star in the known Universe.
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Posted 16 April 2005 - 08:28 PM

what are "glial" cells?

"Glial cells provide support and protection for neurons." from http://members.tripod.com/blustein/
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Posted 17 April 2005 - 02:07 AM

Glial cells also make the nervous system work faster. A neuron with glial cells surrounding it transmits signals much faster than one without.
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 12:00 PM

originally posted by pulsar-21
if it is not true at the moment that there are more atoms on the earth then there are stars in the universe then at some point there may be because the universe is expanding and new stars are being created and earth is staying at the same number of atoms it will always have. therefore at some point in the very very distant future(that is if our earth is around long enough to see it) there will eventually be enough stars to out number the atoms.


New stars are not being created in the way you percieve it, the entire universe is expanding. Every atom, dimension of space is being stretched to a larger version of its former self.
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 03:55 PM

Ophiolite: Unless you wish to consider the Universe infinite in extent, it seems there are around 10^28 atoms (Edit for clarity: "in the Earth" )for every star in the known Universe.


Well, I guess I should have stated that I meant the Unknown Universe as well. Those calculations are only for the known universe. I guess I'm looking theoretical now.

Megadeth: New stars are not being created in the way you percieve it, the entire universe is expanding. Every atom, dimension of space is being stretched to a larger version of its former self.


I agree.
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