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#81 questionposter 


Primate

View PostiNow, on 11 March 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

It probably doesn't make sense because nobody here is saying that... Not even close.


So then how can things you learn be genetically passed down unless learning things alters your genes? It would make much more sense if merely the aptitude for learning something was passed down rather than the thing itself, but apparently there's more too it than that.

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#82 User is online  iNow 


SuperNerd

View Postquestionposter, on 13 March 2012 - 01:02 AM, said:

So then how can things you learn be genetically passed down unless learning things alters your genes?

They`re not, and it doesn`t. Why do you continue to think othetwise?

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It would make much more sense if merely the aptitude for learning something was passed down rather than the thing itself

Exactly, and that is precisely what the evidence suggests happens.

I am still unsure why there is any confusion surrounding this point.
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#83 Ringer 


Molecule
Think of a book being passed down from generation to generation. The things contained in that book are now being passed down without genetic modification. There is a certain aptitude to be able to do, or not, the things in that book but the skills in the book are still being passed down. I believe that is the sort of thing Charony was talking about.
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#84 questionposter 


Primate

View PostiNow, on 13 March 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

They`re not, and it doesn`t. Why do you continue to think othetwise?


Exactly, and that is precisely what the evidence suggests happens.

I am still unsure why there is any confusion surrounding this point.



View Postquestionposter, on 10 March 2012 - 03:05 AM, said:

So are you saying the aptitude or better ability to learn something can be passed down or that a specific thing or skill you learn would be passed down?



View PostiNow, on 10 March 2012 - 03:09 AM, said:

Both can be passed down.

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#85 User is online  iNow 


SuperNerd
Aptitude is passed down through genetics.
Skills are passed down through education.

Both are passed down. It's the method of transmission that differs.

If... after this post... you still claim not to comprehend what we're saying, then you are most likely being intentionally obtuse/trolling.
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#86 questionposter 


Primate

View PostiNow, on 13 March 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Aptitude is passed down through genetics.
Skills are passed down through education.

Both are passed down. It's the method of transmission that differs.

If... after this post... you still claim not to comprehend what we're saying, then you are most likely being intentionally obtuse/trolling.


Nope, that's still not it because I had already stated those things and still Charon said there was something else. I already understood what you were saying, but I don't see how the other part you didn't mention exists or how knowledge get's passed down through birth.
By the way, you might want to be less arrogant before wasting a troll card.

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#87 User is online  iNow 


SuperNerd

View Postquestionposter, on 14 March 2012 - 12:57 AM, said:

Nope, that's still not it because I had already stated those things and still Charon said there was something else.

Quote for us specifically what was said that has you so irrevocably confused.
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#88 questionposter 


Primate

View PostiNow, on 14 March 2012 - 03:05 AM, said:

Quote for us specifically what was said that has you so irrevocably confused.


Oh wait, it wasn't charon it was you

View Postquestionposter, on 10 March 2012 - 03:05 AM, said:

So are you saying the aptitude or better ability to learn something can be passed down or that a specific thing or skill you learn would be passed down?



View PostiNow, on 10 March 2012 - 03:09 AM, said:

Both can be passed down. Where you seem confused is in the mechanism of transmission.


How does something you learn ever get passed down genetically? I've never heard of that before.
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#89 Ophiolite 


Moderately Super

View Postquestionposter, on 14 March 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Oh wait, it wasn't charon it was you



How does something you learn ever get passed down genetically? I've never heard of that before.

I think the reference was to passing information on through culture, not genetics.
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#90 User is online  iNow 


SuperNerd
Precisely. It's a reference to education and teaching. You "pass it down" through showing them how to do it, or explaining it. I thought this point had been clarified like 10 or 12 times already, though.
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#91 questionposter 


Primate

View PostiNow, on 14 March 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

Precisely. It's a reference to education and teaching. You "pass it down" through showing them how to do it, or explaining it. I thought this point had been clarified like 10 or 12 times already, though.


Ok, well I was thrown off by the fact that that particular instance didn't pertain to genetics and the context I was talking about, so sorry about that.

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#92 User is online  iNow 


SuperNerd
No worries. I'm glad we were able to iron out that particular wrinkle. Cheers.
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