j6p Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Speculation: the expanding universe is creating energy and black holes are squeezing energy out of existence. Question: has this line of reasoning ever been pursued on this forum? If so can someone point me to that thread. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) There is a class of model this has striking similarity to. That being the zero energy universe model. This is in essence a universe from nothing model that has been proposed numerous times by professional Ph.D's As far as Blackholes being able to suck up a universe however isn't viable once you understand the 1/r^2 decrease in gravity strength vs the sheer size of our universe. So surprisingly enough your speculation isn't particularly outrageous. Nice to see for a refreshing change as your asking a valid question as opposed to this is the way it is. Here is a coverage of the zero energy universe complete with the proper math. http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiRoK-kj9DRAhVK4WMKHc2pCbwQFggaMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fciteseerx.ist.psu.edu%2Fviewdoc%2Fdownload%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.340.6115%26rep%3Drep1%26type%3Dpdf&usg=AFQjCNG68ilLLrWBbWZDNtGievrmlSyUJA&sig2=Cfh_i5Wn88olA17tlypV7w It has often been referred to as the "Ultimate free lunch. Keep in mind this is just one of numerous possibilities as the LCDM big bang model doesn't in and of itself describe how the universe began as we still have insufficient evidence to support any valid universe creation model over another. The BB model described by LCDM starts at [latex]10^{-43} seconds forward. The other debate is whether or not energy is conserved or not on a global universe scale. Edited January 20, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Speculation: the expanding universe is creating energy and black holes are squeezing energy out of existence. If black hole destroys energy, how can BH becoming bigger, bigger and more massive at the same time (after sucking particles).. ? Edited January 20, 2017 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Good catch on the wording Sensei. I missed the destroy part lol Edited January 20, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j6p Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 I want to thank Mordred and Sensei for your kind and insightful responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Your welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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