The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) I was wondering if the speed of light could be = to pi ratio in this odd find. I am really looking to get other opinions as I think I nearly stumbled on this. Not to sure if this is what I think, but I am open to opinions, thanks! 299.792458/144.1994472645505= 2.07901253220476 144.1994472645505/299.792458= 0.48099758154873 log(2.07901253220476)= 0.3178571072492 1/0.3178571072492 = 3.14606776816854 = PI RATIO? Edited September 19, 2011 by The Light Barrier -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Where did the numbers 144.1994472645505 and 0.3178571072492 come from? What do they represent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 144.1994472645505 is actually time squared to an approximation as in 12*12 = 144---> THIS IS THE CATCH! IE: 12 star constellations, 2*12 = 24 hours in earth time. And 0.3178571072492 was with this: log (2.07901253220476)= 0.3178571072492 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 144.1994472645505 is actually time squared to an approximation as in 12*12 = 144---> THIS IS THE CATCH! What do you mean, time squared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 "I think" it is as in E=mc squared = E= time......this is the inverse of this of which "I believe" in theory. But what do you think about pi ratio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 And how did time end up being 12? There's many other ratios that approximate pi; for example 201/64 is closer to pi than your example is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Yes this is true but, I am using the constant of the speed of light......plus my calculation flows.....plus I use 1 as the numerator. Also 201/64 does equal pi ratio but the denominator is "again" a squared number as in 8 squared =64 rather yet known in sacred geometry as a "hexadecimal number." As you can see 12 is also squared that I am using, but I use the "squared" of 12 in time in relation to a flowing function of time which shows relation to a cycle in this case a cloned pi ratio..... Edited September 19, 2011 by The Light Barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrRocket Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I was wondering if the speed of light could be = to pi ratio in this odd find. I am really looking to get other opinions as I think I nearly stumbled on this. Not to sure if this is what I think, but I am open to opinions, thanks! 299.792458/144.1994472645505= 2.07901253220476 144.1994472645505/299.792458= 0.48099758154873 log(2.07901253220476)= 0.3178571072492 1/0.3178571072492 = 3.14606776816854 = PI RATIO? This makes no sense. pi is a dimensionless pure number. The speed of light has dimension distance/time and the numerical value varies with the arbitrary choice of units for distance and time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 As you can see 12 is also squared that I am using, but I use the "squared" of 12 in time in relation to a flowing function of time which shows relation to a cycle in this case a cloned pi ratio..... And what does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 Of coarse it makes no sense and yes pi ratio is dimensionless, however where in time is pi ratio calculated in relation to a cycle* a diameter? Surly, there is somewhere that pi ratio needs a value, in this case the speed of light to "hold" this cycle's circumference together in relation to time which has value. This I believe is in relation to 10^3 = 1 cycle or pi ratio.... This makes no sense. pi is a dimensionless pure number. The speed of light has dimension distance/time and the numerical value varies with the arbitrary choice of units for distance and time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 The speed of light has dimension distance/time and the numerical value varies with the arbitrary choice of units for distance and time. One could pick units such that [math]c=\pi[/math]. I have never seen that done, but I suppose it could simplify a few equations here and there. Or it might just course more confusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaled Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) I thought about, [latex]Speed \;\; = \;\; \pi \; / \; Second[/latex] [latex]c \; = \; \pi \; \times \; n[/latex] for some number [latex]n[/latex] Edited September 19, 2011 by khaled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I thought about, [latex]Speed \;\; = \;\; \pi \; / \; Second[/latex] [latex]c \; = \; \pi \; \times \; n[/latex] for some number [latex]n[/latex] only if n is a distance otherwise it is dimensionally challenged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baric Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 144.1994472645505 is actually time squared to an approximation as in 12*12 = 144---> THIS IS THE CATCH! IE: 12 star constellations, 2*12 = 24 hours in earth time. There are 88 constellations, not 12. Also, Pluto is no longer a planet so your mathematical formulas need to account for that as well. Remember, the values of all mathematical constants in the universe will vary based upon the current status of celestial knowledge of Western civilization on this particular planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) YES! Very very very true, the 12 in my finding squared references to "Earth's Axial Tilt" also in reference to 24 hours in a day / 2 = 12 as in daytime and night time on the other side of earth. If I had access to atomic time clocks then my finding would be point on point exact... And in this we see E = mc squared. But I think there is more that we are not seeing here..Thanks There are 88 constellations, not 12. Also, Pluto is no longer a planet so your mathematical formulas need to account for that as well. Remember, the values of all mathematical constants in the universe will vary based upon the current status of celestial knowledge of Western civilization on this particular planet. Edited September 19, 2011 by The Light Barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrödinger's hat Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 What baric was saying was that most of the numbers you have used are arbitrary values which were picked because they were a roughly convenient size for the humans who invented them. There's nothing fundamental about dividing the circle into 360 units, or twelve hours in a day, or the length of a second compared to the length of a metre Mashing these numbers together isn't going to be meaningful. At least any more meaningful than measuring the width and and weight of your refrigerator in furlongs and stone, and using those numbers as a source of universal insight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 This appears to be numerology, and thus takes all the praise that that deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) INTERESTING! try this: c = pi*n*2 = 1 "cycle" of 10^3km of 1 frequency. But let us remember something. What if n = a fraction of time only if n is a distance otherwise it is dimensionally challenged Hmm, not to sure on this, you see to relate the speed of light in relation to pi ratio, you need to perform the function so this flows evenly and proportionally through the process much like precession and nature...And when done in this fashion as to how nature expands, this deflects all confusion thus now numbers follow nature within the splendor of creation. One could pick units such that [math]c=\pi[/math]. I have never seen that done, but I suppose it could simplify a few equations here and there. Or it might just course more confusion Edited September 19, 2011 by The Light Barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Where did the numbers 144.1994472645505 and 0.3178571072492 come from? What do they represent? thats easy. you take the important numbers 2 (for yin and yang), 3 (for the trinity), and 11 (for continuation - ie after the 10 divine commandments) 1. 2 raised to the power of three multiplied by the primes between 2 and 11 inclusive [(2^3)*2*3*5*7*11] gives 18480 2. nestle this product between the magic numbers 2 and 11 yet again and we obtain 2(184840)11 = 218484011 3. multiply this by the numbers 2 3 and 11 and you get [2*3*11*218484011]= 14419944726 4. the next 5 is 2+3 and then you add this multiplied by 101 ( 11 split by divine nothingness) and you get 14199447265505. simple really (if you neglect the fact that I missed a 4 out in the first calc - damn) CdeS-G Edited September 19, 2011 by imatfaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Incredible! But if we are using arbitrary numbers out of no where, then these arbitrary numbers hold "true" form in the material world, ie velocity, weight, mass, circumference and etc. I agree with you! But we still have no idea where pi ratio came from bottom line. But this I ask, why does pi ratio work if it is empty space?? And what is its relation to time? Remember time is the speed of light and a frequency wave = the sine curve of a 360 completion. It is this which needs to be understood. The mystery is how these human arbitrary numbers of irrational selectivity still fall into the order of "natural numbers." What baric was saying was that most of the numbers you have used are arbitrary values which were picked because they were a roughly convenient size for the humans who invented them. There's nothing fundamental about dividing the circle into 360 units, or twelve hours in a day, or the length of a second compared to the length of a metre Mashing these numbers together isn't going to be meaningful. At least any more meaningful than measuring the width and and weight of your refrigerator in furlongs and stone, and using those numbers as a source of universal insight. Numerology? I think that is = monetary system..... This appears to be numerology, and thus takes all the praise that that deserves. Very true and the speed of light = 10^3km as per polarization in relation again to pi ratio of 1 frequency cycle in time. One could pick units such that [math]c=\pi[/math]. I have never seen that done, but I suppose it could simplify a few equations here and there. Or it might just course more confusion Edited September 19, 2011 by The Light Barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Numerology is any study of the purported mystical relationship between a count or measurement and life. It has many systems and traditions and beliefs. Numerology and numerological divination by systems such as isopsephy were popular among early mathematicians, such as Pythagoras, but are no longer considered part of mathematics and are regarded as pseudomathematics by modern scientists.[1][2] Today, numerology is often associated with the paranormal, alongside astrology and similar divinatory arts. [3] The term can also be used for those who place excess faith in numerical patterns, even if those people don't practice traditional numerology. For example, in his 1997 book Numerology: Or What Pythagoras Wrought, mathematician Underwood Dudley uses the term to discuss practitioners of the Elliott wave principle of stock market analysis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Close I think??? Ok..well your number of 14419944726 is still not equal to pi ratio. Here is what I used as per "your" number: 299.792458/14419944726 = 2.07901253227037e-8 14419944726/299.792458 = 48099758.15335555 log(2.07901253227037e-8) = -7.68214289273709 1/-7.68214289273709 = -0.13017201241407 1/0.13017201241407 = 7.68214289273684 Question, doe you number of: 1441994476 <-----have a tenths place? Look at mi find here: 299.792458/144.1994472645505= 2.07901253220476 144.1994472645505/299.792458= 0.48099758154873 log(2.07901253220476)= 0.3178571072492 1/0.3178571072492 = 3.14606776816854 thats easy. you take the important numbers 2 (for yin and yang), 3 (for the trinity), and 11 (for continuation - ie after the 10 divine commandments) 1. 2 raised to the power of three multiplied by the primes between 2 and 11 inclusive [(2^3)*2*3*5*7*11] gives 18480 2. nestle this product between the magic numbers 2 and 11 yet again and we obtain 2(184840)11 = 218484011 3. multiply this by the numbers 2 3 and 11 and you get [2*3*11*218484011]= 14419944726 4. the next 5 is 2+3 and then you add this multiplied by 101 ( 11 split by divine nothingness) and you get 14199447265505. simple really (if you neglect the fact that I missed a 4 out in the first calc - damn) CdeS-G The number 14419944726 still does not = pi ratio. Look here: 299.792458/14419944726 = 2.07901253227037e-8 14419944726/299.792458 = 48099758.15335555 log(2.07901253227037e-8) = -7.68214289273709 1/-7.68214289273709 = -0.13017201241407 What I have is this: 299.792458/144.1994472645505= 2.07901253220476 144.1994472645505/299.792458= 0.48099758154873 log(2.07901253220476)= 0.3178571072492 1/0.3178571072492 = 3.14606776816854= PI RATIO! Does you find of:14419944726 have a tenths place? thats easy. you take the important numbers 2 (for yin and yang), 3 (for the trinity), and 11 (for continuation - ie after the 10 divine commandments) 1. 2 raised to the power of three multiplied by the primes between 2 and 11 inclusive [(2^3)*2*3*5*7*11] gives 18480 2. nestle this product between the magic numbers 2 and 11 yet again and we obtain 2(184840)11 = 218484011 3. multiply this by the numbers 2 3 and 11 and you get [2*3*11*218484011]= 14419944726 4. the next 5 is 2+3 and then you add this multiplied by 101 ( 11 split by divine nothingness) and you get 14199447265505. simple really (if you neglect the fact that I missed a 4 out in the first calc - damn) CdeS-G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baric Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 YES! Very very very true, That right there was too obvious and gave away the troll. You did get a few bites, though, so grats on that. And please don't bother denying it at this point. When you troll as a dummy on a science forum, you have to avoid looking too dumb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Barrier Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) HaHa! sticks and stones may brake my bones, but names will never hurt me! This is only an attempt to get off the subject here. No one can still disapprove of my find because it is in the math no mater how you look at it. Also, you tend to forget the relation between 1 meter, and this is 3*12 inches = 1 meter in relation to pi ratio, hence as delta x approaches zero, there goes your relation to 144! HAHAH! Thought you would have figured it out by now, but the mystery goes far greater than the ego can ever see. Dontcha wish "yo" -->teacha was smart like mine! FREE YOUR MIND AND STOP GETTING LOOPED IN THIS WORLD'S ILLUSIONS OF TIME...... That right there was too obvious and gave away the troll. You did get a few bites, though, so grats on that. And please don't bother denying it at this point. When you troll as a dummy on a science forum, you have to avoid looking too dumb. Yes thanks for this info and yes I do very much agree with all this. However, we still to this date use the e scales of base ten, which in turn ends up as a "round off error. Another "mystery" to unravel in today's mathematics. http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Numerology Edited September 19, 2011 by The Light Barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pincho Paxton Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 If there was a better reason for 12 *12 would this mean that there was an odd connection, or are all of the numbers just picked from thin air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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