I know' date=' I'm sure they have INFLUENCE I just odn't think intelligence groups CONTROL the media.

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why not? the Gestapo did a marvelous job at controlling the media, so does some group(or groups) in Iraq these days.

 

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the media is like a hungry dog. it can be misled or guided by some entity.

if it lacks 'interesting' stories to spin on, it'll create some. it's all about making the buck. but usually there are (hidden)forces and goals behind such organizations, otherwise they wouldn't survive.

I know' date=' I'm sure they have INFLUENCE I just odn't think intelligence groups CONTROL the media.

 

And, by the way, that just strengthens my claim that media cannot be trusted...

 

 

~moo[/quote']

 

If they have influence, this implies to me that they have a certain element of control over the media. And no, the media can't be trusted - as soon as they hear of a good story, most media firms will just publish it without a second thought (a la Daily Mirror, Sun, etc).

why not? the Gestapo did a marvelous job at controlling the media, so does some group(or groups) in Iraq these days.

 

Why not? because I see the RESULTS.

The results (and this is something I KNOW about) are that the intelligence agencies are being HURT -- SERIOUSLY HURT sometimes -- by things that are published.

So saying they control the media is stupid. If they did control the media, they'd hide the things that destroy their covers.

 

 

if it lacks 'interesting' stories to spin on, it'll create some.

 

I dnt know how far you take this 'create' stories thing, but I do agree. I don't think the media unleashes murderers and sets buildings on fire and kidnaps people in order to have a story, no, that I DEFINATELY disagree with -- but I do think that they create a story in terms of "how to show" a story.

 

For instance, a "small" story of a few african-bees, turned to this huge NEAR DEATH hysteria in the media.

It turned out to be nothing.. but hte media had its share of ratings over this eledged story.

 

That's how I think they CREATE stories.. I don't think they're actually creating events though. I don't think they have to - the world has enoug action as it is...

 

~moo

the media has a knack to overemphasize things making an elepant out of a flea. it is evident in all types of media.

one of the best examples i can think of right now besides the tv is the magazines.

i like mags like Maxim and FHM, but the women there are in pristine physical condition, not a single blemish on their body, etc. well, that's lots and lots of makeup and even more air-brushing.

I decided to bump this old thread rather than create a new one. Please read through it, it's not long. Then read this NY Times article. I think this typifies the Bush administration and indeed all politicians who cater to huge business interests. Spin doctors are working with the media to spoon-feed us exactly what they want us to know.