kainuri9 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Im not sure wich one of these apply to the combustion of carbon using Potassium Chlorate : 3( C ) + 2(KClO3) = 3(CO2) + 2(KCl) OR 3( C ) + 4(KClO3) = 3(CO2) + 4(ClO) + 2(K2O) if second Reaction is true: Hypochloride would be formed, would it be toxic? Also the K2O would react with H20 in the air to Form KOH wich is caustic. And i would also need only half the amount of Carbon fuel. So is this reaction harmless :1st reaction or does it create toxic fumes :(2nd Reaction) thanks already PS: is carbon a good fuel to use or an organic compound like powderd sugar? PPS: would Hypochloride form Chlorate (ClO3) under high temperatures formed within the Reaction and the Oxygen Present in the air 3( C ) + 4(KClO3) +4(O2) = 3(CO2) + 4(ClO3) + 2(K2O) Edited December 12, 2016 by kainuri9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sriman Dutta Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I think it will be C+KClO3 ---> CO2+KClO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainuri9 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 I think it will be C+KClO3 ---> CO2+KClO i think so too since the energy output is higher in that reaction but still... could it be that both reactions occur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sriman Dutta Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Sorry I couldn't understand you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainuri9 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Sorry I couldn't understand you. well isn't it possible that both the reactions happen at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sriman Dutta Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Well, I have no idea whether two simultaneous reactions involving same reactants in the same concentration to yield different products is possible or not. I think it's impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainuri9 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Well, I have no idea whether two simultaneous reactions involving same reactants in the same concentration to yield different products is possible or not. I think it's impossible. Hmm... a possible Reaction I thought of myself was : 3( C ) + 3(KClO3) => 3(CO2) + 2(ClO) + KCl + K2O Wich if you look at the molecular structure of KClO3 would be theoreticaly very straight forward. I don't know though if this is possible or not but as I said it looks like it should work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sriman Dutta Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 There can be many different possible hypothetical reactions, but only one is correct at a given temperature and pressure and other conditions present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainuri9 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 There can be many different possible hypothetical reactions, but only one is correct at a given temperature and pressure and other conditions present. Thats the reason im on here... to get affirmation of one of the many hypothetical formulas... is there any way to find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sriman Dutta Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Best way.... Ask a chen expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainuri9 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Best way.... Ask a chen expert.I asked my chem teacher and he said he didnt quite know and said both are (like you said) theoreticaly possible. So I will leave the question open because i do still kind of want to know and i bet there are a lot of chem experts on this forum to😊 Edited December 14, 2016 by kainuri9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypervalent_iodine Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I don't think you get hypochlorite from the decomposition of ClO3. I believe your first one was correct, but I have not checked that it is balanced properly (you would want to balance via half equations). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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