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I will be honest about how I feel concerning this book and Intelligent Design in general. If Intelligent Design was a concept that described how it might be possible that a higher level of consciousness with great power designed and constructed the Universe and perhaps a Multiverse using Quantum Evolution...the process by which Quantum Particle/Wave Forms through the natural laws of physics existing continually arrange themselves into constructs of greater and greater complexity and eventually achieve GENESIS at which time Biological Evolution continually arranges and develops Life into greater and greater complexity until such life achieves self awareness...THEN I would say...it may or maynot be true but at least it is a possibility given that it cannot be disproven. But instead the term Intelligent Design was used to describe ANYTHING BUT. Reguardless of the specific reasons it is banned I am glad it is as far as being allowed to be taught in Public Schools and I do not think many if any Private Schools are teaching this and if they are I would bet the parent would be pulling their kids out reguardless of how religious they might be. After all...I have noticed that a persons Faith tends to lean to a greater degree upon an education that will get their kids into a good college as apposed to having to go to a Community College. Split Infinity

Mike...as Chaos Theory and Fractal Pattern Theory have shown us...even the most complex system where cause and efect...action and interaction...and Quantum Indeterminant Values are the rules...A PATTERN WILL ALWAYS PRESENT ITSELF in even the most RANDOM of things. Thus although it would seem impossible to determine the location and condition of every Particle/Wave Form in our Universal Reality at a specific moment...IF this was known...the Math tells us that every possible following event, action, interaction and cause and effect could be determined till the end of time. There has NEVER been a case in the History of Man that the Math showed something to be a reality...and then it was proved not to be so. Golden Rule...if the MATH say's it is so...it is so. Split Infinity

OK...Mike...I will catch you later. I will be having a few myself this afternoon! Split Infinity

Mike...although science and physics is just a hobby for me...I have come up with a theory based upon Interconnectivity and probability and I have run this idea past Dr. Michio Kaku as I met him at a CD Release Party in NYC. I am a touring and signed musician and as part of my contract I must go to 4 CD Release Parties a year and these are usually in NYC, LA or London. I met the Silvered Hair One at such a party in NYC as the corp. that owns my label also owns the entertainment division that Dr. Michio Kaku does TV specials with. Such parties are thrown and my attendence is required to be SEEN as is his. I do not especially care for these events as I have issues with Celebrities that think what they do and even what they wear is the end all to end all. Plus I HATE encountering these Gangsta Rapas that act all Bad and as I sometimes work with members of the U.S. Military as well as I am trained in a specific skill set then add that to my almost 6 foot 2 inch muscular frame...I get these kids acting all bad coming up to me because I prefer to wear Black Leather...as they feel some need to prove themselves. It was exactly at such a time when I met the Silver Haied One as a few KID's that were Hip Hops new thing of the week bumped into him and as they obviously had never watched a Science/Physics/Cosmology TV show in their lives...they became very rude and even threatening to a degree. I stood up asap and placed myself between these two and the Doc. and watched as 4 more of their possee started walking towards us. One of them started spewing out the standard threats and placed his hand behind his back at the base of his spine as if he was drawing a gun. I looked at the Doc and said...This should be fun. Since we all went through a metal detector coming in and even if this kid has a plastic Glock he still is going to need Bullets. Doc...what is the calculated amount of force I will exert if my arm and fist weigh 20 lbs and I drive them through a persons chest cavity at a velocity of 80 miles per hour? Let's say...the PSI of my fists surface...about 24 sqaure inches? The two kids looked at us very confused. They didn't know if all this jargon was a threat or if they were being made fun of and they definitely were not going to ask me what I was talking about. I looked at Doc and said...Let's go to the bar and get a napkin and pen. I'm sure with your help we can figure this out. They we walked away toward the bar...both of us trying not to start laughing hysterically! The two kids just stood there looking at each other even after we got to the bar talking to themselves confused. Doc said...That is one hell of a way to get out of a bind! I told him...I bet you they will leave in about 2 minutes...AND THEY DID! LOL! So that's how I met him and we both enjoyed talking to each other as he said he had to go to these parties also and it was nice to find someone to talk to about subjects besides what this or that person is wearing or what deal they signed. Then as we started talking about Physics I asked him if he had ever heard a theory that was specific to PROBABILITY being the driving force behind Quantum Particle/Wave Form exchange and transfer in a Multiversal System? He said he had not and I described it as such... Reguardless of Quantum Chromodynamics...Quarks exist at Numerical Will between a minimum and maximum within Protons and Neutrons. Now these Quarks are BLINKING IN AND OUT OF UNIVERSAL REALITY as they change numerically within Protons and Neutrons but never are less in quantity or more than a numerical minimum and maximum. I theorized that it was PROBABILITY that was responsible for this as it applied to the possible results to any event thus cause and effect. So if I was driving to work along a route I always take and a kid kicks a ball and that ball rolls into the road where a truck over turns attempting to avoid running over the kid chasing that ball thus the road closes and I take a different route and stop at a Coffee Shop I have never been to before where I meet my future spouce then eventually get married. Now all along this story there are specific points where cause and effect can change the outcome and sometime dramatically. IF the kid kicked the ball straight and it did not go in the road...if the kid did not chase the ball...if the truck was not there as the truckers wife made him late that morning because they argued...if the road did not close...if I was a bit earlier to leave for work...etc...etc...etc. My theory is...if cause and effect are such that a specific outcome will start a chain of events that lead to a major Alternate Version of Events...as in this story....any small change would result in the road NEVER being closed and thus I would never meet my future spouce and thus all the chain of events related to that meeting. In such a state of INDETERMINATE TIMELINE OR REALITY...the Numerical Quantity of Quarks in my body and everyhting related to these events will represent the PROBABILITY of that Reality following a specific TIMELINE or the creation of a BRANCH off the specific existing Divergent State of Reality I am in at that moment. So if the PROBABILITY that such Cause and Effect will lead to the creation of a New Branch...QUARKS WILL EXIST AT OR NEAR MAXIMUM NUMERICALLY. If the probability is low for a new branch to be created...Quarks will exist at or near Minimum Numerical Quantity. If probability is at or near 50/50...quarks will exist at or near average numbers between minimum and maximum. This concept goes along with Quantum Interconnectivity within a Multiversal System as Quarks that are blinking in and out of Universal Reality are being transfered to multiple Alternate Divergent Universal Reality or being transfered into...in the case of the above story...that specific Universal Reality as since in the story the chain of events lead to finding and marrying my future spouce...Quarks would be transfered in to be at numerical maximum in all Protons and Neutrons connected to the chain of events past present and future. Thus in a Multiversal System and our Universal Reality being but one of an infinite number within a SPECIFIC UNIVERSAL GROUPING...where all Universal Realities within this group all have the same Laws of Nature and Physics. There would also exist INFINITE NUMBERS OF UNIVERSAL GROUPINGS...and each Universal Group would have it's own baseline Natural Laws of Physics or perhaps have something else or some other construct that is specific to each Universe within each group that cannot be defined or perhaps even understood. The behavior of Quanta...such as Photons and Electron that act as both Particle and Wave is an aspect of Quantum Mechanics that cannot be modeled or explained using 4-D Geometry and even if 10 or 11 Universal Space/Time Dimensionality might explain it...it cannot explain how such Quanta can have 2 or more Functions as experimentation has shown an isolated Electron both acting as a power source for an electric motor and yet at the same time...Grounding Out. Same can be said about Photon Function as the Double Slit Experiment has shown. Using a Multiversal System would solve the known issues of how Quantum Mechanics work and behave. Doc and I had a few pops and he told me he had never thought of Probability as being the driving engine behind such things. Split Infinity

There is a big difference between a person being an atheist or agnostic as apposed to a system of Government that is against Freedom of Religion. Now I am agnostic but I would never dream of forcing another to either not believe in a GOD nor would I attempt to force them to believe in a GOD or any particular religion. What I get irked about is when a few people come to my door early in the morning in some attempt to preach to me what in their minds in the ONE TRUE RELIGION. Then I get handed some panflets and then they attempt to give me a few books...which they say are free but a DONATION would be appreciated. The problem is that many religious people just can't respect another person who say's...No thank you. As many of the door to door type do so as their religion states they must spread the word or they feel that unless a person such as myself converts or follows their religious beliefs that that will be the only way to save my SOUL! LOL! I always tell such religious types...My SOUL...if I have one...is just fine thank you....NOW GET OFF MY FRONT PORCH! I have this theory...I think that if an actual GOD exists...and an actual Heaven and Hell...there has GOT to be some place inbetween where all these Bell Ringing Pains get sent and for a thousand years they have to get waken up early every morning from a sound sleep to answer their door by OZZIE OZZBORNE...as he then asks...Blimey! Have you seen my pet BAT? Split Infinity

Mike...I understand what you are trying to do...it's just that I would think it impossible to create a verbal representation of everything if one does not know what EVERYTHING encompasses. It's sort of like living a thousand years ago and attempting to make a map of the world not knowing the planet is round. Now it is possible to use a representation for the unknown...but to do so would mean that one would be basing any discription of EVERYTHING upon just a partial and incomplete understanding as well as using a starting point or base or frame of reference that one cannot yet know what interconnectivity that has with everything...well...it just seems a bit tough. Split Infinity

Yes...I agree with this. But that does not mean the reason for this is due to a GOD. Split Infinity

Although I agree that for some people Religion is a good thing in that Religions have a basic Reward/Punishment doctrin that does have an effect upon Human Behavior. There in lies the root of a Greater Problem. If people could evolve to the point that treating another in a good way...a way that they themselves would like to be treated...would be THE SOLE PURPOSE OF HUMAN KINDNESS AND UNDERSTANDING...this world would be a far better place. I mean...how sad is it that for many...the only reason they do not behave in a murderous or vicious manner is the threat of Eternal Damnation? Split Infinity

It is postulated that if one could know the position and condition of every existing Particle/Wave Form in our Universal Reality...then it would be possible to calculate the outcome of every following interaction, event and condition till the end of time...in this Universal Reality. Now I think that would be true if our Universal Reality was a Closed System...but I am betting it is NOT. Split Infinity

Mike...I would make #1...Because I exist...so must every possibility of existance. #2...Because anything or everything can occur and exist...it MUST EXIST in every possible version and be effected and effect in every possible way. #3...Because the natural laws of my Universal Reality exist...so must every other possible version of alternate Universal Realities and Natural Laws. Split Infinity

It doesn't rule in favor of any type or form of GOD either. It also doesn't rule out the possibility that what ancient man believed was the acts of a GOD...might have been the acts of some Highly Developed Alien Species. Split Infinity One thing I would like to touch upon is how most religions pecieve and talk about Heavenly Rewards as they would be given that are specific and benificial only to a Human Body. Such religions go on and on about such rewards and these rewards could only be beneficial to a person with a living biological body. Now this makes absolutely no sense as such religions also state after death it is the soul that remains. The soul is not corporeal and as such is neither constrained or subject to desires of the flesh. Perhaps if such religions offered my soul I nice Ion Bath and a Gravitic Lensing Massage I might be interested. Split Infinity

There is a BIG difference between censorship of someones beliefs and denying an outright LIE from being advertised upon this board. Has anyone seen or read the Intelligent Design book ment for teaching kids in school which is now banned in all public schools in the United States and many other countries? If I can remember it is called...Pandas and something? It is neither intelligent or well designed and is quite possibly THE SINGLE MOST IDIOTIC THING I HAVE EVER READ! Never mind what is in the book has no scientific basis...it is also a total afront to common sense. I have no issue with a child going to Religious School and most teach true science and religion...BUT EVEN RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS DON'T TEACH THIS TRIPE! It's shear stupidity is only slighter than it's audacity. Even Ultra-Concervative Groups have labeled Intelligent Design as idiocy as such people maybe highly religious but they still are paying big bucks to send their kids to schools to become Doctors, Lawyers, Surgeons...etc...which requires learing REAL SCIENCE. Split Infinity

Thank you for explaining to me the point system. As far as whether it is Physics we don't understand or if it is Physical Law beed over from a different Universal State...either way it goes against what has been conventionally called Physics within our Universe. Split Infinity

Since this topic is about the Strength of Faith...I will conceide that for some people Faith as it applies to a belief in a GOD...is very strong even if there is no proof to have such Faith. Still a person who follows the Scientific Method cannot prove or disprove the existance of a GOD even if such a question is a bit backwards as Science would first use either mathematical Probability, Physical Evidance, Observation...etc...before a Theory was even presented never mind as in this case...some who claim a GOD exists before such things are available or even if they are available. Now for me the jury is still out. Becuae I have witnessed some very peculiar things specific to the possibility of a Human Soul...I will not state a GOD does not exist...nor will I state one does. What may exist may not be anything people have thought or defined as a GOD and perhaps nothing at all exists...but what I do have FAITH in is my insticts. A Human Being has a few things going for them that allows us clues to make guesses upon possibilities. One of these things is our Subconscious Mind. Everything that our senses pick up is stored and analysed and cross referenced by our Subconscious. Things we are not aware of by the observations of our Conscious Mind tend to come screaming to the top due to the abilities of our Subconscious and many times DREAMS are a way for the subconscious to make us aware of things we can either not figure out or are unaware of on a conscious level. The other thing we have going for us is our Nervous System which I and others believe may be capable of detecting certain particle interactions well beyond those detected by our senses. Between these two...and the combination could be called Human Instinct...a person tends to know about something or if something is wrong or right well before the conscious mind can put together the pieces to make such a determination...this is called a GUT FEELING. So what does my gut tell me? Although there is no decernable proof...I feel that there is perhaps more going on than we are aware of. Can I prove this...no...but do I feel it is true...yes...and I have FAITH in what my gut tells me. Split Infinity

Inflation...in less than 10-30...30 should be small and to the upper right of 10...of a second after the Big Bang the Universe explosively expanded faster than the speed of light...c=186,282 Miles per Second....shooting matter and energy in all directions. This occured some 13.7 Billion years ago. Accelerating Expansion caused by Dark Energy started a bit more than 5 Billion Years ago...vastly increasing Universal Expansion. Universal Expansion is measured and determined by the velocity of matter and energy thus determined by the distances traveled. Even if it is Space/Time expanding and carrying the Galaxies with it....Universal Expansion is still determined by velocity and distance traveled. Thus...since Matter and Evergy are not supposed to be able to travel faster than Light Speed....Universal Expansion and Excelleration of Expansion is showing us Physics Breaking realities. The behavior of Black Holes and what is going on inside has been determined by the greatest minds in Physics and Cosmology as behaving in Physics Breaking Way's and no one has been able to explain this as yet. Even though this board deducted two points from me for my previous post...it is absolutely clear that certain Celestial Phenomina behaves and acts against the known rules of our Universal Physics and Natural Laws. So what I am saying in these two posts is it would seem that by observation of these things...it appears that under specific conditions....our Universal Natural Laws or Physics either do not apply or perhaps another set of Universal Laws are in effect. Also...I really do not appreciate the 2 point deduction for my post which is not only true but seems to have been misunderstood as to it's intent. Split Infinity

As far as someone not being able to invoke something they never even dreamed of...that takes on the supposition that possibly might exist and at the very least be associated with what could be considered a GOD...is something that COULD be invoked. What I am saying is that even the definitions that we use to determine what is a GOD may not even apply to the REALITY. Hey...I would absolutely LOVE IT if a GOD existed just like we were always taught it would but from experience I can tell you that is highly unlikely. When terrible and horrific things happen people tend to answer others questions of...If there is a GOD...how could a GOD allow things like this to happen? The standard answer for such questions is...It is all apart of GOD'S PLAN! When one asks...Then what is GOD'S PLAN? Answer...Who are you or anyone to ask or think you can know or judge GOD'S PLAN?!? Well...I can tell you I absolutely reserve the RIGHT to to ask and what to know what such a GOD'S PLAN might be after seeing some of the things I have seen and been a part of in my experiences. As far as I am concerned...THERE IS NO PLAN...just random events and cause and effect based CHAOS. Now this doesn't mean I don't at least hold out the possibility that something exists as far as a possible afterlife or perhaps our Biologically created consciousness might exist and be apart of some larger or greater plain of existance. But the thing is...when one dies...and let's just say a person has a soul or becomes an Entity of Pure Energy or Consciousness....such a state would no longer force a person to need, want or be a part of or even associated with the physical reality as we exist while alive. This is why I get a big chuckle when I listen to the religious state...Because I was a Righteous Person I will receive my Heavenly Reward of a Large Mansion in the sky. Or the even more rediculous claims that at the time of judgement...440,000 people will be taken up in the Rapture as their bodies will be transfered to a Heavenly Estate. Why in the world do people even think they will have or even need a BODY? Why do people associate Heavenly Rewards as they would Earthly Luxuries? As if my possible existing soul would need a nice bed to lay in. Split Infinity

Well given your intuition...if everything is possible...in a Multiversal System all possibilities MUST exist. Given Quantum Mechanics and how Quanta such as Photons and Electrons as example exist as both Particle and Wave...4-D is not enough dimensionality for this to be so. We have no model to calculate or describe Particle/Wave duality in 4-D...thus there must exist more than 4 Dimensional States within our Universal Reality. Given this...it lends questions to exactly what is the reality of Space/Time in such dimensionality as well as is Particle/Wave duality just specific to one Universal State or more? Split Infinity

For something to either be pushing or pulling matter...there would have to be some kind of interaction with the matters orbitting electron fields. In the case of Gravity...this is not so because Gravity is a word to describe how any amount of Matter warps Space/Time geometry...and not only is matter effected by gravity but energy as well such as how light or Photons can be seen following the Gravitational Warping of Space/Time by Celestial Bodies. Bouyancy...or when an object or matter obtains bouyancy is due to...in either water or atmosphere...the objects displacement of the water or air being an area that if filled with another gas or material that was lighter than either water or air being displaced...would cause it to float. Thus a ballon filled with Helium...the second lest amount of mass Element...will become bouyant in our atmosphere because the air it displaces is heaver than it being filled with helium. Split Infinity

Since your topic is called...The Concept of a GOD...I will concentrate on that. The vast majority of the religious believe in a GOD that is specific to a single individual higher being. What is interesting...and funny as far as I am concerned...is that most think that this GOD made man in his own image. Now I ask why would a GOD have gender or exist in a body designed specific for Earth's enviroment? Perhaps if the is a GOD...it is nothing like anyone has ever even dreamed it would be. Split Infinity

And exactly why is it you can't change the laws of physics? Is it because someone told you it can't be done? Or perhaps because no one has ever done it? Or at least no one has ever known it to be done? There are Celestial Bodies existing in our Universe that are changing the laws of Physiics right now. Black Holes do it. Quasars snd Pulsars do it. After the Big Bang the movement of particles faster than Light Speed shows it to have been done. Some may say my statements are akin to Magic. Magic is just the use of a High Level of Technology that we have not yet obtained yet. So he said...just about. Arthur C. Clark Split Infinity

A ) " Time is percieved as Linear due to Space/Time Dimensionality. " B) " Time is most like concurrent as well as Infinite Divergent Realities being present and generated due to probability and all possibilities of cause and effect. " A. We experience Time as having a past, present and future as well as we need matter to exist to allow us to have a form of reference as well as Linear Time is all about interactions of Matter and Energy specific to distance. Now Matter and Energy cannot exist in only 3 or 4-D. Because of this our Universal Space/Time Dimensionality is greater than 4-D and possibly minimum 10 or 11-D. If our Universal Dimensionality was any lower...say 1,2,3 or 4-D...matter and energy could not exist to allow the perception of Linear Time. As example...1-D or Singularity is a Universal State where time does not exist in a Linear Fashion and most likely not at all. But in our Universe...a One Dimensional Ecpression which is Gravity and 1-D is association and interconnection with all other Universal States of Dimensionality would have time existing in a Non-Linear Fashion. Thus Space/Time Dimensionality determines whether Time is Linear or not. B. If a Multiversal System is in play...and I and many others believe it highly likely...all possible combinations and outcomes driven by probability and cause and effect would exist as well as the existance of Multiversal Quantum Interconnectivity and Transfer. Given this it would also mean that all past, present and future events or realities would exist simultaneously. These existances would be specific to Infinite Divergent States of Reality specific to each independent Universal Grouping...as our Universal Reality exists within on of these Groupings. Other Universal Groupings depending if there is a Construct that allows multiple states of Space/Time Geometry as many of these Groupings might have Universal Realities incompatible with both our Grouping or even understanding...would have Space/Time issues specific to their own Groupings construct. Split Infinity

The reason why I added 2-D to my statement is that is how I am understanding the Dimensionality of the Innitiative to the construct part of your explaination specific to consciousness. Although what I am about to say now has not been definitively proven...there are clues that give it a high probability. Time is percieved as Linear due to Space/Time Dimensionality. Time is most like concurrent as well as Infinite Divergent Realities being present and generated due to probability and all possibilities of cause and effect. Our Universal Dimensionality cannot be limited to 4-D as Quantum Mechanics could not opperate in such low numbers of dimensionality. Given both of these suppositions...Consciousness could exist as both cause and effect within such parameters. Split Infinity

Again...the TRUTH of the World is very different from the FACTS of the World. Split Infinity

I can tell you from experience that the Russians do not laugh at ANYTHING to due with U.S. High Tech. Military applicable projects...whether they come to fruition or not. There is what is PUBLICLY known and what is PRIVATELY known. As example...Lockheed was working on and testing the Have Blue program from which came the F-117...many, many years before anyone...including the Soviets even considered such a program was in such late stages. The precurser to the Have Blue program originated with the R version and then SR-71 program...as that aircraft of which some of it's design originated IN THE LATE 1950'S...used Aircraft Geometry and Radar absorbant Paint to be Stealthy. When Reagan and Gorbachav met in the 80's to discuss Arms Reduction...the Soviet Military made it absolutely clear that the Soviet Leader WAS NOT to sign any reduction agreement unless Reagan shelved the SDI or Star Wars initiative even though this program was not even off the ground. I have many friends in the U.S. Military as well as I am associated to certain companies specific to Defense and all these people will tell you...The number 1 worry of Russia today is that the U.S. will develop and deploy a High Tech. Missile Defense Shield using a combination of the FEL and the SM-3 ABM/ASAT. It was DECADES before anyone knew about the SR-71 and the F-117 was flying missions directly over Eastern Europe on the Soviet Side without ANYONE knowing about it. The U.S. Military and CIA has not disclosed what the replacement was for the SR-71 and you all can be certain that THERE IS a replacement flying and has so for some time. So when I read posts here laughing off the possible abilities and apps for the FEL...I am the one laughing. Split Infinity

Mike...if you are going to publish your ideas...I would suggest that you do not describe your two boxes of reality example as being in 2-D or 4-D...as this is not possible. Split Infinity