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Huh? Fusion occurs at the surface of the core

No I really don't think unicorn droppings is a reasonable possibility. I guess that's where we differ.

You didn't know that? I thought it was well-known

If jupiter were entirely made of liquid hydrogen it would be 178,000km in radius (4/3) * pi * (178000km)^3 * 0.0794 g/cm^3 in earth masses = 314 earth masses its surface gravity would be 3.988 m/s^2 G*317 earth masses/(178000km)^2 = 3.988 m/s^2 the pressure at the center would be 280,000 bar 0.5*(178000km)(0.0794g/cm^3) * (3.988m/s^2) in bar = 280000 bar not enough pressure to make metallic hydrogen Hydrogen and helium account for 98% of the mass of the universe. (If jupiter formed from the collapse of a gas cloud instead of being spun off the sun then 2% of jupiter should be elements other than hydrogen and helium. Thats 6 earth masses 3 earth masses of that is oxygen alone 1.5 earth masses is carbon If a 6 Earth mass body about the size of earth existed in the center of Jupiter than it would increase the pressure by (178000km)(0.0794g/cm^3) * 0.0377^2*6*(9.8m/s^2) * (1-1/0.0377)/(1-0.0377) in bar = 280,000 bar Still not enough pressure to make metallic hydrogen

If the sun began as a rapidly growing and rapidly rotating 60 jupiter mass brown dwarf then it was at that time almost entirely metallic hydrogen surrounded by a thin (4000km) ocean of about 3.2 earth masses of liquid hydrogen. Between the liquid hydrogen ocean and the metallic hydrogen there may have been a 1000 km thick layer of metallic oxygen and/or metallic carbon that was 100 times denser than liquid hydrogen and amounting to a little less than a saturn mass. (Based on the abundance of the elements it should have been 4000 km thick but I guess it becomes fully degenerate at 1000 km and sinks to the core of the protosun) When the suns core finally collapsed it would have begun to spin so fast that its outermost layers of liquid hydrogen and metallic oxygen and metallic carbon would have been thrown out into space where it would have coalesced into a moon which would immediately begin receding from the rapidly rotating protosun due to tidal interactions. If it continued to spin faster and faster then even part of its metallic hydrogen (now the outermost layer) would have been thrown out into space and would have formed a second, probably much more massive, moon which would also immediately begin receding due to tidal interactions. Maybe, just maybe, saturn=1st moon and jupiter=2nd moon I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility This would also explain why hot Jupiters are so common Even though the sun accounts for most of the mass of the solar system, Jupiter's orbital momentum accounts for the majority of the Solar System's angular momentum

Considering how abundant oxygen and carbon are in the universe I would have to assume that the core of the Sun is made of fully degenerate metallic oxygen and metallic carbon All planets from 1 Jupiter Mass to 60 Jupiter masses have the same radius. The density of jupiter is 1.33 g/cm^3 A 60 jupiter mass brown dwarf is about 60 times as dense and made mostly of metallic hydrogen. 60 g/cm^3 = Metallic hydrogen density This suggests that metallic hydrogen only occupies 1/60th of the volume of Jupiter. Thats 1/4th of the radius.

The core of the Sun is probably metallic helium

That was the first thing I explained

No metallic hydrogen in Saturn All planets from 1 Jupiter Mass to 60 Jupiter masses have the same radius. This suggests that metallic hydrogen only occupies 1/60 of the volume of Jupiter. Thats 1/4 of the radius. The surface of the gas giant is defined as the point where the pressure of the atmosphere is 1 bar, Scale height = the vertical distance over which the density and pressure fall by a factor of 1/e. saturn Scale height: 59.5 km jupiter Scale height: 27 km Below the Frenkel line the fluids are "rigid" and "solid-like", whereas above it fluids are "soft" and "gas-like". 76850km = polar radius of jupiter (76850km-300km) = 76550km = Frenkel line for jupiter 60 g/cm^3 = Metallic hydrogen density 0.25*76550 km = rmhc = radius of metallic hydrogen core in jupiter (4/3) * pi * (0.25*76550km)^3 * 60 g/cm^3 in earth masses = 295 earth masses of metallic hydrogen in jupiter Mass of Jupiter = 317.8 earth masses mass of Jupiters liquid hydrogen ocean = ((4/3) * pi * (76550km)^3 -(4/3) * pi * (0.25*76550km)^3) * 0.0794 g/cm^3 in earth masses = 24.6 earth masses (0.75*76550km)(0.0794g/cm^3) * 2.528(9.8m/s^2) * (1-1/0.25)/(1-0.25) in bar = 4,517,416 bar = pressure at which hydrogen becomes metallic inside Jupiter 1.326 = density of Jupiter (0.75*76,550km) = depth of liquid hydrogen 0.0794 g/cm^2 = estimated density of 0.75 liquid hydrogen (0.071) + 0.25 liquid helium (0.125) 2.528 * (9.8 m/s^2) = surface gravity of Jupiter (1-1/0.25)/(1-0.25) accounts for increase of gravity with depth = (integral of 1/x^2 from 1 to 0.25)/(integral of 1 from 1 to 0.25) Saturn reaches 1,341,458 bar at 0.25 from center (1-0.25) * (54300km-357km) * (0.0794g/cm^3) * (10.44m/s^2) * (1-1/0.25)/(1-0.25) in bar = 1,341,458 bar This suggests that there is absolutely no metallic hydrogen in Saturn Earth reaches 1.16 million bar at 2900 km depth which is enough to make metallic oxygen (2900km) * (4g/cm^3) * (10m/s^2) in bar Perhaps the inner core is metallic oxygen rather than iron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_oxygen#Metallic_oxygen

The existence of metallic hydrogen also suggests that there exists a second set of shells closer to the nucleus than the "ground state" of hydrogen.

Read on dude I am tempted to think that you're being deliberately obtuse

You demand evidence and then ignore the evidence that is given and claim that it is baseless.

I gave the evidence and op

Well let's not call them quarks then. Let's call them globerschmucks instead

Certainly it does. The angular momentum that you measure is just the angular momentum of one of the quarks alone. The other one is unknown

Thats not how angular momentum works for rigid objects. This would be 2 completely separate rigid objects in the sense that each can rotate independent of the other. They couldn't move independent of each other but they could rotate independent of each other

Because they don't add. They are completely independent And this is my thread

Well obviously they would be two brand-new kinds of quarks

Then the process repeated: Gold, silver, copper, bronze, iron, diamond Infinite time, finite (strong), finite (moderate), finite (weak), infinitesimal, zero time But this time the result was autistic people

You state that as though there were a conflict between being a fundamental particle and being composed of quarks. I see no conflict

Just as a proton consists of three quarks so an electron would consist of at least two quarks, one of which forms the system of shells and subshells that we are familiar with and the other would form a system of shells much closer to the nucleus

We know the electrons mass and its charge and its angular momentum and from this we can calculate what it's magnetic field should be. But the actual magnetic field is much stronger than this. One possible explanation is that most of the electrons mass (and perhaps some of its charge) has fallen to the centre. Perhaps even existing in a completely separate system of shells surrounding the nucleus. This could also explain why electrons prefer to fill the 6s shell before the 4f shell. One would expect the 6s electron to fall into the 4f subshell since the 4f shell is closer to the nucleus. But it doesnt. The 6s shell is further from the nucleus but if part of the 6s electrons mass (and charge) fell further toward the center than does part of the 4f electrons mass (and charge) then it would be energetically more favorable

Do you have a question?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aufbau_principle http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pertab/perfill.html 2 dimensional (n + l) version: On the right-hand side is my 3 dimensional (n + l + ?) version:

Whereas the elementary particles that make up matter (i.e. leptons and quarks) are fermions, the elementary bosons are force carriers that function as the 'glue' holding matter together. So what is the force mediated by phonons?