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3 hours ago, studiot said:

No I have never seen explicit reference to those invoked.

Right, more likely it was their PaLM 2 or MUM, under the Search Generative Experience moniker (SGE).

My larger point was that ChatGPT is one specific product from one specific company called OpenAI and that it’s extremely unlikely Alphabet/Google are licensing the use of that product put out by a different company for AI generated summaries of their search results. Instead, they’re almost certainly using their own LLM (SGE as earlier noted).

https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/10/23717120/google-search-ai-results-generated-experience-io

You asked if the answers here could be applied to any and all silicone grease products you ever encounter anywhere. The answer was, no. The answers here apply ONLY the product you asked about. Period. Don’t extrapolate. 

If you can’t stand that level of clarity and precision and see it as a rudely slammed door, then you may be too sensitive to be a successful member here and should instead (as I mentioned earlier already) consider relaxing a bit. You seem to be wound pretty tightly. 

And we’re once more aligned, even if getting here didn’t maximize efficiency ✌️

1 hour ago, Trurl said:

I believe you that it is far off.

No offense intended toward MigL, but there’s no reason to accept that claim as valid. 

51 minutes ago, zapatos said:

they are typically retirees looking for something that lets them stay engaged in a meaningful way

31 minutes ago, Sensei said:

Aren't you mixing "volunteers" who count votes and work at polling stations with "volunteers" who help politicians from their party during campaign.. ? Because of course I said about the latter..

But you replied to me, and I was indeed talking about the former… the group Zapatos correctly describes.

THEY are the ones no longer agreeing to help facilitate elections and polling stations because Trumps crazies threaten them with mob violence and death and intimidation more broadly all for just doing their jobs. 

It’s no longer safe to perform a fairly basic civic duty. Recall the stories of militias showing up heavily armed in polling station parking lots and following workers home as recently as 3 years ago… all because of the guy about to get elected again. 

46 minutes ago, AIkonoklazt said:

Yes, I am arguing the semantics, and the semantics is important because that's exactly what policy hinges upon much of the time

Nobody here except you has mentioned policy, AI or otherwise. The thread regards whether evolution is an earth only process. 

46 minutes ago, AIkonoklazt said:

Self-proclaimed? Certainly you jest!

Would you have preferred I used self-indulgent?

1 hour ago, swansont said:

vigilance will mitigate it to some extent.

Indeed. Also, my comment above about trust being a major challenge moving forward may have been overly broad and definitely wasn’t restricted solely to SFN

40 minutes ago, studiot said:

when googling a question especially a technical calculation, the top reference is sometimes to a ChatGPT reply

Not Bard?

Or DeepMind?

6 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

so how do we tell the difference moving forward?

We don’t. Trust is going to be an even bigger problem moving forward, and this includes text, audio, video, and crosses essentially all modalities. 

41 minutes ago, Sensei said:

Honest? You must be joking or living in an illusion..

I should’ve selected a different word to describe my meaning. Like “based on tallies”

42 minutes ago, Sensei said:

These volunteers are seeking contact with politician-to-be.. if he or she succeeds, they hope to be remembered, when it comes to the ministerial table layout and in hope to get lucrative job, worth to have in their CV

We’re obviously thinking of different groups and people. This does not apply to most, I can assure you. 

1 hour ago, Sensei said:

How do you know if the previous ones were won or lost in an honest way?

This is a bigger question, but it involves counting and recounting when challenged. 

Though in an “honest” way simply meant above that the vote tallies repeatedly confirmed who won and who did not… if Trump wins, he’ll act like an authoritarian. If Trump loses, he’ll also act like an authoritarian AND claim it was rigged then sick his minions on honest civil servants trying to do serve their country as volunteers during elections. 

And here in Iowa his support is loyal. He enjoys not just a 54% level,of support, but that support is rabid and unwavering. 

1 hour ago, AIkonoklazt said:

"MOOT POINT," says the non-colander-donning hoomahn...

A self-professed wiseman recently said (within the last 60 minutes, IINM):

Why are you replying if you don't have a point? Are you forgetting that "making a point" is "making a point regarding the topic at hand?"

Do you have the ability to not respond to a thread in which you have no actual argument to contribute to?

26 minutes ago, AIkonoklazt said:

this guy still has about a 50/50 chance of being elected president again

And a 90% chance of triggering a second civil war when he loses the next one again in an honest way.

6 hours ago, MigL said:

Did we ever establish in the preceding 20 pages, the definition of 'free will'

Yes, many definitions were established, and various participants have been exercising their freedom to choose completely different ones when posting.

6 hours ago, MigL said:

and whether it actually exists as such

Depends entirely on the definition one selects.

Welcome to philosophy… where we’ll be speaking of the exact same thing without making any significant progress for many centuries to come. 

Wait, so you’re saying this Trump fella isn’t a standup guy? I dunno. You sure seem to be jumping pretty quickly to your conclusion. 

+1 for leading by example 

8 minutes ago, MigL said:

I'm not worried about anyone breaking into my encrypted data for a long time to come.

At least not until next Tuesday. 

49 minutes ago, MigL said:

You must have gotten a lump of coal from Santa

Yeah, and I told him to go punch himself in the face, too.  

😂 

Go away, bot. You’re drunk 

17 minutes ago, mar_mar said:

I try to find in the nature of property of energy ability to do work.

Punching yourself in the face would be one such example. 

Note to self: Looks like a back door to reintroduce another version of the “red doesn’t exist” dumbassity 

7 hours ago, mar_mar said:

So, let The Bible for those, who want to read it.

I’ve read it several times. It’s a large part of the reason I’m an atheist today.

Did you have a specific section or at least book you’d like US to focus to focus upon seeking validation of YOUR point? Maybe at least define which of the numerous versions of “THE Bible” you’re “citing.”

And how come bibles don’t exist if the color red doesn’t exist? You’re horribly inconsistent to the point of absurdity. 

16 hours ago, AIkonoklazt said:

Uh, what?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Non-Overlapping_Magisteria

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most proposed gods' alleged effects on the material world are, of course, material, and can be studied much in the same way that all science really just detects real-world cause and effect relationships. In this sense, critics reject the "non-overlapping" aspect of the two magisteria and conclude that if the two genuinely didn't overlap, supernatural entities would have no effect on the real world and thus their existence, or not, is a moot point.

5 hours ago, Alan1 said:

No,no stress at all,even not a bit.

I understand, but please take note that reading your replies suggests otherwise. 

5 minutes ago, swansont said:

As a rhetorical exercise, I fail to see the point you’re making.

Appears to be a sloppy form of the nonoverlapping magisteria position that science and religion are two circles in a Venn diagram with zero occlusion (another self-evidently false apologist assertion)