Jasper

I did something like that and then ended up with a new answer the one above. *waits* for what you come up with. I found a maths *2 pattern that allowed for all squares to be accounted for but there was not the uniformity that C allowed for as I saw it.

When I did it with the other shapes you end up with irregular amounts of double ups meaning instead of one space leftover it was varied ... sometimes 2 , sometimes 3 ... so I still think my answer is the correct one. Because I only end up with one missing space in each row and I used each shape iaswell ie one different shape per row and the outcome was the same each time. But only in the order I listed ie Circles, triangles and lastly crosses. If you use the shapes in any other order or just one of the shapes for each row there is no consistent outcome otherwise.

North of me near Rockhampton are two markers for the Tropic of Capricorn. The old one from the 70s and the new one put in a few years ago. The new one is about 500 metres North of the old one. Cool, huh? yep - definitely cool. I won't need any popcorn in 2012 while the 26 000 year event comes around but hopefully I can see the events in the night sky during the latter part of next year. Luckily a friend didn't quiz me on this as they my have thought that I wasn't listening the first time I had heard of this. :?

. However the bottom line is that the Precession of the Equinoxes has less effect on the planets mantle than the daily revolution does. The Sun rises in a different sign of the zodiac and the lines of the tropics wander up and down a bit, but that's all. thanks for that ..I misunderstood the event but you have cleared that up for me.

http://www.maranatha...8/blackhole.gif this a is clear picture of one a stellar black hole

It occurs approximately every 26, 000 years . It takes that long for the earth while spinning on its axis to wobble from one tilted side to the other tilted side. I believe at the moment it changes and begins the change in motion and direction ie to begin to return back to the other side it will experience a bulge due the torque caused by the spinning motion (I think that's right). There are a few changes during that transition between the two directions. It would affect the centre of the sphere because of the torque (as was explained to me ages ago and mentioned just above). I am thinking along a bit further to tectonics plates and through that transition of motion. When I said centre I meant a band around the equator.

Firstly I don't subscribe to the thinking that we will be experiencing Armageddon conditions in 2012 but in saying that. I do think it would be remiss to not allow for some serious tectonic activity because when the precession of the equinoxes occurs and the change and shift in motion and direction of the wobble of the earth that twisting motion must be impacting the mantle. It would have to be having an impact on that. Where will be most affected is the curious bit in my view.

I am going with "C" as the solution. In the first row when you overlay the patterns of the circles ie top to bottom you end up with a circle pattern on the grid with one double up , 2nd row triangles same pattern and same double up ... the third row overlay the crosses that's my guess and why as well. I realised with the total sum of objects it had to be something beyond my first guesses.

is the answer a coffin?

Me too as you can easily read as the previous post to yours.

But how does time dilation factor into this? That's the limitation as we know it .. I thought (trying to understand this myself).. in that ... you can leave earth and in the reality of the "observer on earth" have centuries pass but to "the travelling person in space" away from earth it would be years only to them in their reality. IE to the person in space time passes seemingly to them as it did on earth. The observer on earth's time scale shows time as slower relative to the traveller though. which is supposed to be why C is a constant apparently everywhere regardless. Even though a smartypants in history said so.....well a rather famous one at that. I am leaning towards there being parallel outcomes too but how many and why and how there would be a set limit on those to fit mathematically within a model is umm beyond me. Any suggestions? I am interested in that direction as well booyah 2000 . I hope I am on the same page with your question. It was my intent.

You might be interested to know they are building a series of many dishes in Central Australia. The reason for this , is to be able to look at large areas of space simulataneously. So, it will be like a fly's eye. You might already know about it. The radiowaves just keep travelling . So we should be able to pick something up when it reaches us.

I sidestepped "that" part of the question and focussed on language development. I thought that was more helpful .

One thing though... we are listening "always" but not simultaneously at all reaches out to the CMBR. We're likewise making noises all of the time with our emitted radiowaves. No one has spoken back to us or indeed we haven't received an ancient transmission either. So ... I am guessing reasonably ..that if they're out there... then they have either come and gone....or we haven't been looking in the right areas of space. If we recieved radio waves that were from intelligent life ...then ... it would be continual. For example , if it is from a planet like ours , I reckon. This is because using "us" as an example , we are pumping out radiowaves all of the time. A colonised planet would as well. It would be noisy. If they have come and gone then we would be able to hear them because we can hear the CMBR which is looking into the past events. Which is the furtherst we can know about currently.

My understanding. Language is complicated by a few things. You learn to emulate sounds by hearing them as a baby. If one of your parents has an atypical way of saying certain sounds then the baby may well learn to as well through simple repetition and nurture. It could also be a cognitive and/or auditory dysfunction thing as well , so nature. But when you put the two together it is likely to carry on generationally. I would expect that there might be some visual discrimination things co-existing too. So, if the person, while developing their language omitted the first and last sounds for an example that would be indicative of something cognitive. If that is detected in the early years up to 2 years then early childhood screening is recommended. The presence of Otitis Media complicates things as well because to a child managing or not managing with it they can hear sounds as though they are garbled through water and importantly through the formative years of language development. That might be affected by social structures if undetected or treatments unavailable. happy to be corrected on the thoughts expressed. As far as the class based questions no idea. Never been there. I don't know there is any basis to that.

The time involved for us to get outside of the outer reaches of our solar system is monumental in our timeline of life. To be off galaxy hopping is even more impossible for us. We don't have ways to fuel that voyage , even with slingshot travel , as is used by unmanned probes into space currently. UFO means unidentified , it doesn't mean alien. We often associate it with that though. That's my understanding of things, although it might be flawed. For example, if you looked at the logistics of having enough food on board to keep generations of people alive as well. There are so many technical issues to overcome. Admittedly , I am comparing human limitations. If Aliens could get here... then they have achieved time travel IMO. Simply because of the time involved, to travel the distances required is phenomenal.

It is common courtesy when visiting at someone else's home to respect their house rules. If you can't do that then don't visit them is my thinking on that. Ask them to remain outside and continue the conversation there then. Friends should be mutually respectful.

Hi brand new member here. I have no expertise in any particular area and I am not qualified in any particular field either. I do love science though !! I do have broad areas of interests in the sciences generally speaking. Most recently a particular query in the physics area of time dilation ie QM and SR in how they don't gel on this matter. It has piqued my curiosity some what. I look forward to speaking with you all in the threads. Jasper.