rigney

120 over 70 friend and only a good looking woman can raise it, or get my shorts in a twist. But then, perhaps you are right and I am being lead around by the nose, but if so please don't wake me 'til after November elections.

To make a long story short, the new medical bill pushed through congress during Democrat's holding the floor. There were no real discussions, only arguements. Then to hear Pelosi in her own words say: Well, if you want to know what's in it, you'll have to read it. That statement alone will likely cost Obama reelection. His apologies to foreign nations even before he was presiident, galded hell out of me. Genuflecting to the Saudi leader infuriated me. Trying to browbeat Romney, cajoling him into making a mistake is politics; but a dirty spin of expressing them. I've probably said too much already and will probably need validation for each of my statements. If civil conversation can't be conducted on a local level without name, rank, date of birth and sperm count being questioned, don't watch TV at all.

Education is necessary for a civilized nations survival. But what happens when everyone has earned a Phd in Physics, Medical Science and Cosmology? Some day it may come to that. What then? Do we simply step to the next rung up the ladder of Zen? Then just swoop off into a dream world of exaulted accomplishments? I have spent a lifetime working with a few brilliant people, so-so folks like myself and some, pushing hard for an IQ of 70. But none of them should be declared as not having a place in society. I am no Philosopher, but to try equating the philosophical views of 2,000 years ago with today? I wish you luck. Regards

Are opinions being banned now? At the moment I'm almost afraid of making a critiizm without absolute facts. You seem to be just around the corner waiting for me to screw up. As I've related before, if you would rather I retire from this forum, just say the word and I'm gone with no harm done. I really don't see why my proclivity should cause you pain. Some on here see it as shooting fish in a barrell. Again, you just say the word and I'm out of here. Otherwise lighten up if you will.

I think Norbert was just indulging in some hyperbole.after all it does seem that rigney wants to find a reason to not like obama not to mention quote mining is a very common pet peeve.

Not trying to be course but my initial question was, do olympic athletes pay taxes? Them my mind goes back to Jim Thorpe.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Thorpe I don't want our tax system to go under and I thought my question was certainly within bounds. I also think Olympian athletes don't mind paying taxes on their endorsements. If that was the case, I would contest it vigorously. In your case, I am very glad you are suscessful. But if you want to pay more taxes than the government requires, please do so. I find so few million or billionaires in my life, it's hard for me to say how they feel. I hope you make millions.

Ya gotta remember one thing Joatmon, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

Are you truly so upset that American Olympians pay income tax (and always have no less!) that it's not worth participating at all??? But what taxes do they pay, and why? And as a business man you're saying you actually want to pay more taxes? Are you in a funny business by any chance?

Nope! I was just trying to look at it from a business mans stand point and the governments interest in taxes being gleaned.

Why don't we just try banning Olympic participation from this country? Or even go back to the prizes and accolades presented to those first olympians, wreathes made from an olive trees leaves. You want to hear a real hue and cry, do that.

On Rubio's filing the bill to abolish it, that was absolutely a political move and I can't blame him. And you can't compare professional athletes with Olympians. Most professionals are scouted for their skills prior to college. A great many are given a free pass to a good university or colege based on those skills. To my knowledge, that isn't the way Olympians are picked. As I said before, if an Olympian is making money through other sources, they should be taxed accordingly. Just leave their medals and that one or two time stipend alone.

It's a fact America doesn't always get it right and the The Civil War was undoubtably our greatest tragedy. But yours is an excellent assessment of our good and bad qualities. Thank you.

On occasion even those dumb rhinos come up with something that makes sense.http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/1/rubio-bill-eliminates-federal-tax-olympic-medals/ Well, I'd have to say someone is trying to abolish part of that ignorance now.http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/1/rubio-bill-eliminates-federal-tax-olympic-medals/

My mistake uncool. It was John Donne, not Dunn.http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/no-man-is-an-island/

The statement wasn't proven false. If so, how? Why is it fair to even mention taxing these medals, or the $25 tho, $15 tho or $10 these kids receive? Some kids make that much on a good weekend pushing crack or junk and will never pay a dime in taxes. It take a ball busting bit of sweat to win a medal. If they are making big bucks through endorsements, commercials or other avenues, sure, that money should be taxed accordingly, amateur or professional. A five year old making tons of cash with their acting skills or in some other cash cow industry should pay taxes the same as a grownup. No! The fact it was on the tube at all aggrevated me.

I guess that being a leaner I'm vurnurable to questioning and quick to react. I really get ticked off when someone sees me as an idiot because of my stance. Nothing should be right or left, but for the good of the people as a whole. Can such a dichodomy ever be resolved?

I believe Dunn made that last statement. Let's not dissolve such proclivity by dumped it into politics or herasy.

I didn't make that statement as an accusation, or to villify you. But from what I was hearing, it didn't equate to a rightist's understanding. Pardon!

This is by no means an injustice done to our service men or women. Either as a total heroic act of patrioticism on their part or wanting to make a living, they paid their taxes and many with their lives. When I see some of the trash, filthy trash that explains their detachment of trying to attain employment, i want to puke. Let's leave it at that.

if you are proposing this as a liberal issue, forget it.

Yes, some athletes jump from poverty to huge bucks. But not most. I believe this link says a lot about the issue.http://www.biblemoneymatters.com/the-cost-of-raising-an-olympian/ When all is said and done, yes; when an athlete is well paid or overpaid, they should be taxed accordingly. But for the government to ask recompense from a medal winner, I don't buy it, even if they have won a dozen gold and sold them all. Tax their wealth from that point on, not for winning a medal.

So what if they inadvertently lose it? If not, why not wait until they start making those big bucks?

Well bless your heart! A Phd & post doc? Tell me, how many hours did you spend pounding the pavement or a grassy field or climbing a hill or swimming laps in a pool to quantify that honed skill? Yes, you did quite a bit of study and mental anguish attaining that goal. "But you didn't pay for that on your own"! Someone helped you! Many of these kids, you can bet are full time students and do this out of love for the competition. We all have crosses to bear, keep yours light. Holy cats butt! I didn't even know Romney existed at the time. I've only been on this forum a bit over two years. Until I got the picture of left and right, I thought we were just people with different ideas. Sadly, I was wrong. Well! What am I to believe?

No! I just heard it on that silly assed FOX channel. If I find it quickly, I'll let you know. Otherwise blame it on the right, they made the statement. But maybe this will help.http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/31/picket-olympics-math-medal-winners-pay-9000-irs/ Just how much effort or money did the government put into this athletes years of training? Oh Yes! They may have rode a bus down the street or crossed a bridge, but thousands of hours and money was paid to get this honed edge. One chance for something good in a life and we crusify them? It isn't like hitting the lottery, even though that can be expensive.

I believe we have pretty much figured it out about Entrepreneurs, "Don't be one"! Now this virus of taxation has invaded the Olympics. So be cautious and don't win a medal what ever you do. That is, unless, you want to pay taxes on it. Is this for real? Isn't this the damndest thing you've ever heard of? A youth who has become very proficient over the years honing their skills and who is now qualifiesd for the Olympics, is required to pay taxes on the worth of the medals. Oh Yea! Government wants their cut regardless of who the hell paid those thosands of dollars going into that training. Your're right dude, 'they didn't do that on their own". Pony up!