Rebiu

I believe the stategy was to train the Iraqies to fight the insurgents themselves. I have not heard the old As they stand up we will stand down stategy in awhile.

Because if the hypothesis that thimerosal is the causative agent of autism is true, then *any* vaccine using it will show effects. Or are you suggesting that a simple compound is somehow "different" between vaccines?

This does not answer the question as to why they did not simple gather the information on all vacinations. In answer to you question the amount of mercury is critical to the issue. Children recieve many more shots that this with mercury.

Seriously, the vaccine-autism link has been so thoroughly debunked that clinging to it, even out of misplaced hope, is just pathetic.

 

Look at the site you linked to: a crappy webpage for a society with *no* peer review pubs to back up it's ludicrous claims.

 

Hang on, give me 3 hours and I can whip up a site claiming scientific evidence that autism is caused by exposure to cross-eyed turtles. Better keep the kids away from the ponds!

 

I appreciate that your son's condition is hard on you, and you badly wish there was a way to fix it, but clinging to obsolete conspiracy theories will get you nowhere and give you nothing but false hope.

 

Mokele

It appears you position is in a bit of trouble. Perhaps you could weight in with the thorough debunking you are so confident of.

Good, I am happy to hear your son is receiving benefit from the treatment. I am just asking you to be careful.

I appreciate you demeanor. Perhaps you could move this thread out of Pseudoscience as a show of respect for diversity of opinion.

It is in a helicopter, when hovering to attack is quite common. Yaw control is necessary for quick maneuvering during hover.

This is true of ground attack helicopters. This machine is meant to shoot down other helicopter and therefore hove maneuvering is not as important as high top speed.

If you think we understand autism well, you are badly mistaken. It is only recently that researchers came up with a possible cause for it. Current treatments treat the symptoms, not the disease.

 

This study in no way contradicts or disputes the toxic metal connection to Autism. It you look you will find that toxic metal cause the effect they speak of.

The treatment he is receiving has nothing to do with vaccinations, nor our understanding of autism. The drugs currently in use treat the symptoms, not the disease.

 

Even so, anecdotes do not make evidence.

He receives chelating agents to draw the heavy metals form his body and supplements to replace what his damaged body is lacking.

This link Something Rotten In Denmark

 

I refer you to the conclusion where it says recent articles on Autism and vaccines from Denmark were conducted and published by a cohesive network of authors with indirect or direct ties to the major Danish manufacturer of the drugs they were investigating. The company is Staten Serum Institut.

 

This is a clear conflict of interest.

"A Population Based Study of Measles, Mumps

and Rubella Vaccination and Autism." The New England Journal of Medicine (vol 347, p 1477). This study involved half a million kids. The incidence of autism in vaccinated children was not statistically different than the incidence of autism in unvaccinated children. That's a big sample.

Why only the one Vaccine? Why not all child Vaccines? This study is a strawman. The study that Bushed killed was comprehensive as to other childhood diseases and causes. Let me refer to this part of the article

"But SafeMinds, an anti-vaccination advocacy group based in New Jersey, US, says that the study does not settle the argument. It failed to analyse separately the incidence of the specific sub-type of autism claimed to be caused by the vaccine, the group says.

 

"Regressive autism" accounts for 10 to 20 per cent of autism cases. Children develop normally at first but suddenly regress to autism following bouts of medical problems."

There was an adjustment in the study for potential confounders and the results found a .83 percent chance in nonvaccinated group for Autism spectrum disorders. Furthermore they used Danish Psychiatric Central Register for their Autism diagnosis. This will underrepresent the mild ASD cases that never see a doctor.Abstract

 

I understand that as a parent you have an emotional tie to the subject, but I want to encourage you to be careful about leting your guard down. Excercise your sense of skepticism just as you would with other subjects that you are not as emotionally involved with. You need to be able to approach the situation rationally and realistically without falling into the trap of false hopes which will let you down time and time again--and that's better for you and your child. Good luck in your searches.

So far as false hopes let me repeat the treatments administered by the DAN certified doctor are curing my son. His talking, eye contact and all other diagnostic metrics improve with the treatment and regress with the cessation of treatment.

Sluggish speedwise? No. But YAW is sluggish on a counter-rotating design. A tail rotor will always win in this area.

Your point is valid. My point is that at high speed yaw is less an aspect of maneuver as roll and climb are much more effective.

Seriously, the vaccine-autism link has been so thoroughly debunked that clinging to it, even out of misplaced hope, is just pathetic.

 

Look at the site you linked to: a crappy webpage for a society with *no* peer review pubs to back up it's ludicrous claims.

Please provide links to this thorough debunking as I provide links to my sources.

 

I appreciate that your son's condition is hard on you, and you badly wish there was a way to fix it, but clinging to obsolete conspiracy theories will get you nowhere and give you nothing but false hope.

 

Mokele

He has been following the treatment regiment of the number one DAN doctor in the country and is now talking and showing tremendous improvement from my "clinging to obsolete conspiracy theories".

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18124380.300.html

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3028

 

That study was proved to be wrong.

This retraction is so obviously political. Yes they said the particular study had not been large enough not that the participants were conspiratorial, cooks, or even mistaken.. This only means that the study that was killed by Bush was intended to answer this perceived shortcoming of insufficient study size. These issues are addressed on the site. I suggest you do some real analysis of the information rather than a keyword search on google.

How well do helicopters with two sets of blades rotating in opposite directions work? I know they are supposed to be ideal, but don't the mechanics reduce the effeciency?

Any spinning rotor creates a spiral in the airstream. This spiral represents an inefficiency. If one has a second rotor going the other way it takes advantage of the spiral by creating faster airflow over that rotor. In addition the sum of the spiral dynamics of both propellers creates less of a total spiral and results in an efficiency gain because spirals are inherently low pressure and pull the plane back.

Idk if the effeciency would be any worse than a single rotor helicopter. The top blade does most of the work seeing as the bottom blade is getting only turbulant air. The lower blade is mostly just there to counteract the spinning of the top blade, so there is no need for a tail rotor. I personally don't like the design, not for effeciency reasons, but because there is extra engineering required in a counter rotating system. The mechanism is quite complex and more likely to break down. They are also a little on the sluggish side when it comes to yaw control.

Does this look sluggish.

The Russian design helicopters fighters with this configuration. Their mission is to destroy attack helicopters. The design provides for a faster and more agile helicopter. The yaw issues occur only at slow speeds and as you can see this bird is meant to be flown fast. This configuration allows the helicopter to fly faster because as insane alien eluded it eliminate asymmetric lift problems created when they helicopter move forward at high speed. The problem with a single rotor is that the blade on one side of the aircraft advances into the airflow and therefore experiences greater lift that the retreating side.

How well do helicopters with two sets of blades rotating in opposite directions work? I know they are supposed to be ideal, but don't the mechanics reduce the effeciency?

 

The most successful aircraft with this feature was the Tupolev tu-95

 

The US tried the concept

 

In the early eighties NASA,s The Advanced Turboprop Project: created this design that was more efficient yet competative with jet

Note the second set of blads are stationary.

 

Turbojets use a similar technique spinning rotors and stationary stators to provide air to the jet.

Hello everyone. First post here for me.

 

The big downside of the Iraq war is that we've proven the limits of American power against insurgent tactics. Of course, I would have thought we would already have appreciated those limits but I doubt Bush did too well in history in college.

Good points. The world knows we cannot be challenged conventionally and so all real conflict takes place in other ways. The US attitude seems to be to strut our military muscle and then shake our confused heads when it does not work out as we hoped.

 

As far as conventional power, today we are sitting pretty but 10 years from now, who knows? It will come down to the technology and we can't take anything for granted. If one country, for example, develops a real "invisibility cloak" for its tanks or planes, that country will be the instant global superpower.

The future is wide open. However military strength is directly proportional to economic strength. If the US fails to keep its economic edge it will also loose its military advantage. Many feel this would be a disaster. How bad would it be for the US to have significant competitors for world domination again?

If you think we understand autism well, you are badly mistaken. It is only recently that researchers came up with a possible cause for it. Current treatments treat the symptoms, not the disease.

This little gem of a link is the extent of you knowledge on the issue? Perhaps it is you desire to speak out against me that causes you to condescent from such a lowly and tenuous knowledge base.

 

Does this sound like a delusion

"The Centers for Disease Control and the American Academy of Pediatrics have issued a statement asserting that “the available scientific evidence has not shown thimerosal-containing vaccines to be harmful.” Their statement is false. Following are some of the scientific studies that demonstrate thimerosal, a mercury-containing substance that is used as a preservative, to be harmful and to be a highly probably causal factor in autism. Note that these studies are consistently ignored in the medical establishment’s publications claiming that there is no evidence for vaccine-caused autism."The Vaccine-Autism Connection – Part I (Thimerosal), The Vaccine-Autism Connection – Part II (MMR)

If there's evidence for this other cause, where is it? References, please.

Here is the link. Autism Research Institute

Here is a link to an earlier thread on the issue Rebiu thread

Ground forces are but one piece in the military force pizza. The real measure of US military strength is the US Air and naval power. There is no country of group of countries that could realisticaly defeat the US in a conventional stategic conflict.

I disagree, in fact I think Aardvark's post is an acceptable analysis of your position, and your post is an attack on him personally. And I've acted accordingly. Further digression will not be tolerated.

What did you do? What does I've acted accordingly mean. I have recieved no warnings. The post has not been locked so what are you talking about.

I assume you are aware of the provisions Bush added to the Homeland Security Bill to dissallow the sueing of Vaccine companies over damages caused by their products. Why?

Then he wants to cancel this major research into the causes of childhood illness.

Bush kills children's study

Why would he do this if the cause of Autism is not known and is at epedemic levels. Can you say major campaign contributor.

 

It seems you substitute personal attacks in place of a well stated position. I suggest you know little to nothing about the issue and are trying to cover your ignorance with the broad brush of "whole host of the delusions so apparent in the internet, secret cures for cancer suppressed by drug companies, secret conspiracies......"It seems that all of you discussion degenerate into this when you are pressed on facts.

A slave exists to do the things for you that you should be able to do for yourself but can't be bothered. The requirement is that you are happy. The quality of life of a slave is not high on your list of priorities.

 

A pet exists to give you a feeling of reward through caring for it. You do not generally expect a pet to do things for you that you do for yourself. The requirement here is that for you to be happy, your pet must be happy. The quality of life of your pet is very high on your list of priorities.

 

Cats are the exception to that rule. They don't have owners, they have staff.

That is a clear consise sentiment, well articulated

Is that web site a spoof? It has an advert for 'Memory Training Secrets of Top Toliticians' with a picture of GWB on it...

That is pretty funny.

Slaves are useful.

I a pet makes you feel good most would say it is useful as well, possible more so.

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