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Baron d'Holbach

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  1. Simple answers: 1. what is a 'god' Answer: A imagination of a human being creative thought 2. how could a 'god' be Answer: By the actions of a man to convince himself and dupe others in the creation of a physical entity. 3. what proof is there of a 'god' Answer: The domination of a ruler A.K.A Man to rule and judge over other human beings gives a sense of a God. 4. how do you know the bible or some other religious book wasn't just some storybook for kids to behave way back when. It wasnt. The bible is just a history book for a generation to keep on going. A record book. Stolen stories from others 5. when you now look at the evidence is the possibility of a 'god' real or not? Yes. By using current science and money Human being can live forever like a eternal God. But still being weak as a machine and an organism 6. how would a 'god' exist/ be made? It only exist in the mind of an adult man/woman . All babies are born atheist
  2. I think a easy way to explain this is Elementary particles have spin. A 3 degree freedom function. 1. charge 2. Spin 3. Orbital momentum of a massless particle can in theory create a gravitational field
  3. Where are you guys getting these awesome pictures From?
  4. The Greek Septuagint was written around 400 A.D Archimedes was born around 200 B.C Translation of it from Hebrew to Greek around 400 A.D and put in the word "Eureka" Translated: I have found among the exiles from Judah a man who will make known to the king. From Daniel 2.25 "I have found" replace with the word "Eureka" Only 2 times the word was used. One time in Daniel and another time in Hosea And both times "I have found" is replaced with "Eureka" or another way to write it in a similar way. Also even thou the word was used 130x. Archimedes made it famous. For example: Darwin made evolution mainstream and famous. But so many others was talking about it and already wrote about it before him.
  5. Hahaha. No I do not have an agenda. He asked. I wrote for fun about it. He asked me an argument on it and I wrote a response. I didn't want him guessing why the heck I said that and ran away without any feedback
  6. Socrates is a mix bag of everything. He resembles Jesus without any divine abilities. A teacher/philosopher/poet and mentor. Never wrote a single word on paper and taught many and was prosecuted for his belief. Just like Jesus, Socrates death and philosophy inspire his pupils to follow and write stories about him afterwards. Maybe the argument could be he was just like Mohammad or Homer a illiterate individual who others wrote wonders about. Or those individuals are the real authors of their figment of imagination to create a hero / antitype. Plato was a proflic profound remarkable writer. It's easy to say of course it was him. Penmanship like Plato could of easily wrote about a person name Socrates. Out of everyone in Athens only 2 people met Socrates? Plato and Xenophon. Come on this is a little weird now... at least Jesus had more than that. and than the usual suspects plays in. Every time some one tries to describe him or talk about him, contradiction happens. Cough cough Jesus. and what's weird is why did Socrates die? What did he die For? The answer is for his beliefs? Well Plato documented on paper his beliefs. Why didn't Plato get hang or poison. next topic.............. Of course there were gods before the Greeks. The argument was the Greeks story telling and creations of them. The inventions of hundreds of demons and gods and hero's was on a whole different level compare to the Egyptians or Sumerians. and yes I only scratches the surface. If this was about the Phoenicians or akkadian or old and new Egypt and Sumerian and India it will take forever to write everything. Each country and empire I name could easily be about 500 pages of information of inventions and discoveries My goodness the Romans alone 10,000 pages can be written on them and still we be at 75% there. So yes. Again I pretty much listed in a common sense way here on this page everything an average Joe needs to write a 2 page report on ancient Greek. So yea i emphasis, I pretty much wrote everything a school assignment paper needs Cheers
  7. That last list was for fun. Of course it's not scientific. You did read the fun part right? And also rhetoric and drama and comedy and tragedy can easily be label next to my personal favorites. Plato invention of Socrates - Well this could be classified as rhetoric and comedy And Greeks inventions of Gods/Demons - this can be classified as drama and tragedy Sorry bud I pretty much listed everything Cheers P.S. now don't start the insulting wars for no reason
  8. Greek inventions: Hydraulic wheel Cement Analog computer Odometer Umbrella Cranes Papanicolaou test Alarm clock Sieve of Eratosthenes Catapult Cartography Automatic door Archimedes’ Screw aka "screwdriver" Basic Medicine Concept of democracy Coined money Basic heating (not like how the Romans did it thou) Anchor ------------------------------------------------ My own personal favorites: (For fun) Plato invention of Socrates Aristotle imagination Greeks inventions of Gods/Demons Invention of miliarty Sparta Greek astronomy Normalised homosexuality Invention of the word "Eureka" Invention of Hydrostatics Law courts
  9. Lol that is a little harsh.. I meet him at 25% the bare minimum. Why? Well his view points are basic theological belief system. And my assumption he and most likely you and others here not familiar with jewish kabbalah. Long time ago I study the logos system and he's getting to somewhat to those types of points. It's pointless and useless now these days but in a mystical sense it's attractive. Not to me thou. I consider it folly. Hello Mike, What you are trying to get at will not be in science sadly. I have a feeling with the the absolute hard evidence of science will not convince your conscious. Even if I produce the best possible scientific research and evidences to you, you will look the other way because you won't be fully satisfy. I think you reach a certain level at your age you don't want empirical evidence anymore. But a spiritual awakening of some sort? You might be at the wrong place than. I can show you another path. A path I long abandon but is tattoo into my brain. It will take you deep down the hole. And it's full of opposite evidence that is found in this forum. I have a feeling this is the path you want to get into....... You can start here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkabah_mysticism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heavens https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zohar - I wasted 10 years in this category!!!! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefirot - couple of years on this !! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seder_hishtalshelus - here comes the rabbit holes of 1 out of a million https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life_(Kabbalah) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hekhalot_literature https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ein_Sof https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throne_of_God This is the path I have a feeling you want. This is where you want to be at. Science has the answer. But science dose not have these mystical strange answers. Good luck. Best of luck. This stuff is not easy to decipher. I wasted a decade on this sadly
  10. Thank zeus he never did that!! Selfish Gene was absolutely thought provoking by its title and it's content.
  11. God has filled the mind of man with darkness, and kept him in ignorance of his real duties and true interests. It is only by dispelling the clouds and phantoms of Gods, that we shall discover Truth, Reason, and Morality. God diverts us from the causes of evils, and from the remedies which nature prescribes; far from curing, it only aggravates, multiplies, and perpetuates them "The definition of God is the downfall of humanity"
  12. Wait a minute. The concept of the date was not the period of how we discover this process! Of course I know the Greeks knew this! And over time through theological belief of God and hierarchy we thoroughly ponder on it more. And than the middle ages theologians/philosophers developed a better understanding of it but not as scientific of it untill the 19th century. I did a poor job in mentioning that I was quoting a professor from the 1980. Eminent paleontologist and evolutionist Niles Eldredge since the 1980’s, came up with the hierarchy theory And it's fascinating I am bad at citation http://hierarchygroup.com/home/hierarchy-theory-of-evolution/ And I wanted to add more to this base on Niles Eldredge hierarchy theory. I think he nails it. "Hierarchy theory identifies two different hierarchies: one is named ‘economic’ or ‘ecological’, and it is based on matter-energy transfers and ecological processes. The other is named ‘genealogical’ or ‘evolutionary’, and it is based on information and replication". I think this is where people need to get at. And try to pin point what area of interest is the most dominant aspect of hierarchy. btw I believe there is a hierarchy. Not a mystical one but a common sense natural one. Cheers
  13. This is a easy one: Gold dose not oxidize. Gold is highly efficient conductor Gold is free from corrosion Gold is helping with arthritis Gold has been used for over 4000 years. And it is the most beautiful and scared item of all time. Gold is flexible and malleable Gold is good for like to absorb heat. Great for space travelling Gold is rare and hard to come across and it is a perfect unit for currency exchange. Gold is not toxic And 1 thousands more important values for gold
  14. I completely disagree. Hierarchy is an evolutionary movement. If you look at it in a biological perspective you realize that smaller units form all the components of the larger system. Examples, cells, organism, organs, trees in forests etch.. This idea was from the 1980s. Hierarchy formed out of simplistic multi level structure to complex deterministic phenomena. And this works in all categories. Especially in human being who will to the end of time will always look upwards and advance himself to become stronger. And the question is "who is above or below" is the thing that humans will always have in mind to strive to and not become to.
  15. Thinking how you think we will never get rid of this errorness monstrous idea call a "God". Evolution dose not need a pervert sky man to over look things. The definition of God is the downfall of humanity
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