Louey Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I have a boron atom that has been ionized as several electrons have been removed and so it is now a hydrogen like boron ion. So does this mean that my boron atom that has 5 electrons has lost 1 to the hydrogen or has it lost 4 so it ends up with just 1 (ie hydrogen having just 1 electron)? I'm getting myself confused with how many it loses. For the moment I'm going with that it loses just one and I think then that the symbol for it being a boron ion should be B4+ion ? (that is a superscript 4 by the way). Have I got the knack or lost the plot? If anyone can explain this process in layman English.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 are you talking about Diborane? B2H6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louey Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 Think it is defintely Boron, my question that I am tackling is ... "The boron atom is now ionized by removing several electrons, such that it can be described as a "hydrogen-like" boron ion. I then have to state how many electrons it now contains and give the symbol for the ion. So, it is all in a muddle in my head. Does my boron atom lose 1 (though is that it is just one as that is all hydrogen has) electron and is left with 4 electrons or should it lose 4 electrons and end up with just one (and end up the same as hydrogen)!! So I have two symbols on my piece of paper B4+ion and B+1ion and a headache! It is the word "several electrons" in the question that is not helping me! I prefer biology any day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Boron only has 5 electrons in total anyway, 2,2,1, so when you say you removed "several" what do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I have a boron atom that has been ionized as several electrons have been removed and so it is now a hydrogen like boron ion. "hydrogen-like" implies it has a single electron and you could use the generic form of the Bohr model energy equation to calculate the energy of the electron states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louey Posted July 3, 2004 Author Share Posted July 3, 2004 yay, i think i have sussed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiral_ju00 Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Here is where I have issues with Physics. How exactly do you know that you have exactly 1 ionized boron atom? Don't you need to have an electon microscope or something? How can you get to have just one atom of anything in a home environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 How can you get to have just one atom of anything in a home environment?I understand your point 100% and don`t even know how to do that myself! I can make crystals 1 molecule thick without a problem, and I`m the `MacGuyver` on here I guess it`s based around the assumption that: (1) he works at home. (2) he knows something We don`t. (3) the question was Vague. I`ll settle for the latter "The question was Vague" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarygun Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 does BH3 crystal lattice exist? Why do boron can form Diborane and boron hydride? Such as why sulphur can form oxide and dioxide, are they stable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed84c Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 have u actually got the atom or is it a hypothetical question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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