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#1 bekithemba

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 08:44 PM

i want to start making ethanol on a small scale and was wondering how to get it to gel.
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Posted 30 December 2006 - 10:58 PM

Ummm I'm not quite sure what you mean by getting it to "gel".
For what purpose?

Well if you freeze it to -80C or colder it gets viscous like a gel. Otherwise you can add glycerol to it to thicken it quite a bit.
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Posted 31 December 2006 - 02:58 AM

fermentation can make the ethanol.
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#4 bekithemba

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 01:52 PM

i am in Zimbabwe, africa and here we have plenty of ethanol at a cheap price but people still use kerosene/paraffin for cooking. i need the ethanol to thicken so i am looking a suitable thickening agent
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Posted 31 December 2006 - 04:51 PM

what do you need to thicken it for? and what percentage is the Alc?

I have good reasons for asking.
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#6 bekithemba

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Posted 3 January 2007 - 07:26 PM

The Ethanol Is 95% Alcohol
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Posted 3 January 2007 - 07:33 PM

The Ethanol Is Basically 95% Alcohol. When It Is Thickened It Burns Slower.
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Posted 3 January 2007 - 09:27 PM

If I remember correctly, you can create a sort of 'gel' by mixing the ethanol with a saturated solution of calcium acetate. Use about 1mL of the Ca(CH3COO)2 solution to 7mL of the ethanol
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Posted 4 January 2007 - 07:08 PM

The Ethanol Is 95% Alcohol


in that case use Xanthan gum as the thickening agents, it`ll bind with the water AND the alc (it binds with oils too).
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Posted 4 January 2007 - 10:30 PM

IMHO what he is looking for is a way of preparing Sterno type gelled fuel:

http://zenstoves.net/Sterno.htm

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 06:01 AM

i want to start making ethanol on a small scale and was wondering how to get it to gel.


HELLO,
I have already been in touch with different sites , however, am still having the problem of making the gel on the small scale for dometic use, using the much excess ethanol produce in uganda, the problem is finding the appropriate gelling (thickening).agent .

I look foward for your attention.

thank you.
Dean.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 06:03 AM

ethanol gel fuel productionfor domestic use
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 06:04 AM

ethanol gel fuel most appropriate thickening agent
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#14 bekithemba

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 11:57 PM

i have hydrated lime and vinegar. now i need to know the ebst method for making calcium acetate
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Posted 27 February 2007 - 07:59 AM

I have done this a couple of times, just for fun.

The first time I used crushed eggshell soaked in cleaning vinegar for a couple of weeks, filtered the solution and evaporated it to get the calcium acetate solution. Then I added that to ethanol until it gelled. I think the proportions Invader_Gir posted are correct. I just added enough to the alcohol until it turned into a gel. The second time I reacted pure calcium carbonate with the vinegar to make the acetate. Both times it worked well. And it burnt just as good as the commercial product. Although the eggshell method gave off a bit different smell due to impurities.
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Posted 7 March 2007 - 04:57 PM

i am actually interested in the production of ethanol for home use too but have not really been able to produce any due to the fact that i hear that a gelling agent is required to temper the volatility, i hear any cellulosic material could be used.
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#17 bekithemba

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Posted 4 July 2007 - 11:19 PM

i have ethyl cellulose and i want to make gel fuel how do i go about it? anybody?
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#18 Inahs

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:42 PM

I would also like to know how to make ethanol gel. I have the ethanol, and I have lots of cacti, but I'm not sure how to get the cellulose out of the cacti. Some help/ advise would be greatly appreciated!! :confused:
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#19 Mr Skeptic

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 11:50 PM

Replace the water in a jello recipe with vodka?
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 07:30 PM

Using gel ethanol is one of the ways to reduce Green House Gas emissions. As the name suggests, it is ethanol in gel form. It is a project am working on currently.
To gel ethanol, one of several methods used is to mix the ethanol with abt 1% calcium acetate ( egg shell in vinegar).
hope it helps
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