There is a new science emerging, one of chaos!

[metatron]

There is a new science emerging, one of chaos!

 

Its a new way to see the natural phenomenon of evolution. Opening vast areas of study, and has brought with it, its own vocabulary of —"fractals," "bifurcations," "strange attractors," and "dissipative structures.”

 

These new models go well beyond the traditional views of reductionism.

I have come to realizes, there is an ever increasing gap in science today. One that will leave the two opposing views of "IDism Movement" and Darwinism out of mainstream. The real divergence lies not in Idst and Darwinist, but rather between the view points of systems thinking, that deals in the dynamical relationships of causality in cooperative networks. As opposed to the traditional reductionist approach, applied to Darwinistic view points.

 

While the Idst, and reductionist Darwinist, stand upon the dock arguing over how best to classify and contain nature into manageable parts and slogans. The systems theorist are sailing away into the future….

 

 

http://www.fractalwisdom.com/FractalWisdom/fourattr.html

[Ophiolite]

Can you cite a single palaeontologist or evolutionary biologist, working today, who could be accurately described as a Darwinist?

[metatron]

no, good point!

 

 

 

 

 

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SYSTEMS THEORY:

Systems theory or systems science argues that however complex or diverse the world that we experience, we will always find different types of organization in it, and such organization can be described by principles which are independent from the specific domain at which we are looking. Hence, if we would uncover those general laws, we would be able to analyze and solve problems in any domain, pertaining to any type of system. (Principia Cybernetica)

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[swansont]

There is a new science emerging' date=' one of chaos! [/b']

 

Its a new way to see the natural phenomenon of evolution. Opening vast areas of study, and has brought with it, its own vocabulary of —"fractals," "bifurcations," "strange attractors," and "dissipative structures.”

 

So new that James Gleick wrote a popular book about it about 20 years ago.

[metatron]

So new that James Gleick wrote a popular book about it about 20 years ago.

 

 

 

 

I first started reading on system science in the late seventies with the Tao of Physics by, FRITJOF CAPRA

 

The real pioneers of system science, Mantarana; Varela, Prigogine just to name a few.

 

Yes you are correct, it was been around a long time but…… universities take time to catch up to the theorist.

 

There can be a gap of decades between what is known to a few, and what is than accepted enough to be taught in the universities.

 

This type of science is a way of thinking, it is not a structure of information, and is just emerging in the mainstream academics in the last twenty years or so, which makes it new.

[metatron]

This is a clarification on my first post,

 

quote;There is a definitive difference between the "IDism Movement" (IDism) and "Design Science": Namely, that the ID movement is purposefully designed to further the special interest agenda of a group of religiously biased theologians known as the "wedge strategists" at the Discovery Institute.

 

Whereas "Design Science" is

a rigorous, systematic study of the ordering of components in our Universe. True "science" in this regard neither imparts or encourages theologically based philosophical biases.;quote