crimsonpetal Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 VŒš Microsoft Word •¶žƒ.dochello, today I went over a ppt about organometallic compounds and I found I can't figure out why this equation could happen, can someone help me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan1290 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 This might be a little too basic I don't know much chemistry but from what I can see it looks like water has been removed leaving a phenyl group linked to the benzene ring with 2 carbons and a hydroxyl group left off the ring. The hydroxyl is negatively charged could it be attracted more towards the benzene due to bond enthalpies/charge. Hope more people comment a chemist will be able to answer this better than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabcockHall Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I would analyze it in terms of carbons that have a partial positive charge or a partial negative charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knumbnuts Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 You have gone from a 6 membered ring to a 5 membered ring upon reaction with benzylmagnesium bromide! Is this an error? I ask because the Grignard reagent will open the epoxide ring. On a side note how does one attach an image to a post?. If it was obvious then I would have posted the reaction I am talking about. Thanks for any clues to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knumbnuts Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 OK, I sorted it out. It taught me to scan down the page! Here is what I am talking about in the above. epox.tiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabcockHall Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 LOL, I assumed that the Grignard would open the epoxide, but I managed not to see the question of ring size at all. I also have to wonder whether or not this is an error of some kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonpetal Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 OK, I sorted it out. It taught me to scan down the page! Here is what I am talking about in the above. okay, I find the explanation finally. Since magnesium halides are moderate Lewis acids,their presence in solution may influence the outcome of certain chemical reactions. Magnesium bromide rearranges the epoxide to cyclopentanecarbaldehyde, which then adds the Grignard reagent in the expected manner like your drawing. dialkylmagnesium reagents and organolithium reagents simply adds to the epoxide by opening the strained ring, they are more selective. For the mechanism of the rearrangement, I am not sure, I think it may like the pinacco rearrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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