Widdekind Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 imagine a double-slit experiment w/o the slit... i.e. a blob-like electron wave-function is projected towards a detector... imagine that the detector absorbs 90% of incident electrons, and reflects 10%... you mathematically model the physics on a computer, with a fully 3D computer simulation... the blob-like electron wave-function is some 3D lego-like blocky cellularized shape, occupying some swath of the 3D grid "voxel" cells... the discretized wave-function propagates towards the detector, time-step by time-step... eventually, the "front" of the wave-function reaches the detector... the first such grid "voxel" cell, at the detector, to be (partially) filled with (some) wave-function, has some percent of the particle present, [math]P \equiv \Psi^{*} \Psi dV \ll 1[/math] embodying some amount of momentum, [math]\vec{p} \equiv \Psi^{*} \hat{p} \Psi dV[/math] Q: is the following the appropriate procedure ?? probability the particle is absorbed = P x 90% << 1 => wave-function collapse, into classical particle-like state, absorbed into that spot on detector, which absorbs momentum [math]\vec{p}[/math] probability the particle is reflected = P x 10% << 1 => wave-function collapse, into classical particle-like state, reflected from that spot on detector, which reflects momentum [math]\vec{p}[/math] else, with probability 1-P = 1 - 0.9P - 0.1P, no collapse occurs, no classicality occurs, that piece of the blob of the wave-function merely reflects from that spot, still as a quantum wave, as if that spot of the detector was simply some infinite potential barrier ? then, time-step by time-step, as more and more of the discretized wave-function impacts the detector, you repeat this procedure (??), each "voxel" grid cell's worth of wave-function, gets its chance, to usher in the absorption of the whole particle (90% Pi), to usher in the reflection of the whole particle (10% Pi), or to merely remain as wave-function, reflecting from the spot, as a quantum wave (1-Pi) ? hypothetically, the whole discretized wave-function could fail to absorb classically, and fail also to reflect classically, and so merely reflect as a quantum wave... in which scenario, the blob-like blocky discretized wave-function would wind up evolving / propagating away from the detector, back towards where it originated... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdEarl Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) I believe you know lots more about this subject than I, but sometimes interaction with anyone, regardless of their ignorance can help. A blob is not my image of an electron. There are two, either a string-wave or point-wave. I will not elaborate on the string. My image of a point wave is as a pebble dropped in a pond, except a standing wave that moves in a line instead of the concentric circles expanding from the center. My mind's image of a point-wave electron is similar to the following picture of a hydrogen atom, except without the red and yellow in the middle. http://www.google.com/imgres?client=firefox-a&hs=vJf&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbnid=jwtUvaSFESNvEM:&imgrefurl=http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/05/28/amazing-first-ever-photograph-inside-hydrogen-atom/&docid=XxmOMqgGK6tThM&imgurl=http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/image%252520of%252520hydrogen%252520atom.jpg&w=660&h=371&ei=p9TeUZm8JrPNywHazYCgBg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:0,s:0,i:81&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=168&tbnw=300&start=0&ndsp=11&tx=254&ty=85&biw=1173&bih=575 Edited July 11, 2013 by EdEarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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