Mr Skeptic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 An orbit is when the centrifugal force of an object is equal to the gravitational force on the object. But, centrifugal force is a pseudoforce. What is really happening is that gravity accelerates an object by changing the direction of its velocity. This does not imply a change in speed. Basically, the way to orbit is to throw yourself at the ground and miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Here, infinitesolid, you can learn some Newtonian mechanics online from one of the more entertaining professors I've seen: http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-01Physics-IFall1999/VideoLectures/index.htm Some of the math may throw you off, but it's the concepts that matter most at first. On the left-hand side you'll also see lecture notes, assignments and exams available for download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitesolid2 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) I have to repeat my idea of lifting crude oil rather than current methods. Not sure if people believe it is possible to extract more crude oil than whats currently available using existing pumping methods. I beleive currently there in greenland extracting crude oil, were running low. Lifting rather than using a pump uses a lot less energy to extract the crude oil, can go down a large distance compared to the current 1500 meters. lifting can go down 300+ miles. our atmosphere is only 2 miles, we now have more nitro/gas/oil/petrol/diesel/agricultral food/plastics than ever. How many people does it take to hold back a car? about 75-100? A tank of petrol would last that car about 3 hours? a tank is about 30 litres. How many litres or crude oil can 75-100 people pull on a trolly? about 10,000 litres or 100 litres per person. Thats 10,000 litres of crude oil for a tanks worth of petrol. 1 person could lift 100 litres on a pully. Not worth taking gravity in to account. So 1 tank of petrol can lift 10,000 litres of crude oil for 3 hours. A Car an do 300+ miles in 3 hours, so can lifting petrol. NO WAY A PUMP CAN DO THAT! Or something near that, its a guesstamate. Hope you understand that lifting oil is great news. We now have so much of it. Edited October 30, 2009 by infinitesolid2 -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 we've been over that several times. it does not work as you say it will. you have already demonstrated you do not have the math skills to do any of the necessary calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitesolid2 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 it is profitable please believe, i know its alkward. as a challange, you do it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 provide the maths that shows this is more efficient then people will believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitesolid2 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Fact!! Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedHow many people does it take to hold back a car? about 75-100? A tank of petrol would last that car about 3 hours? a tank is about 30 litres. How many litres or crude oil can 75-100 people pull on a trolly? about 10,000 litres or 100 litres per person. Thats 10,000 litres of crude oil for a tanks worth of petrol. 1 person could lift 100 litres on a pully. Not worth taking gravity in to account. So 1 tank of petrol can lift 10,000 litres of crude oil for 3 hours. A Car an do 300+ miles in 3 hours, so can lifting petrol. NO WAY A PUMP CAN DO THAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 if it is a fact then it should be easily proven. post your maths not just repeat the same old crap again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitesolid2 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Just go with it mate, it's doing my head in. As i said you do better!! Shout out YO!! if your a believer!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 just go with it is not a mathematical proof.it wouldn't even stand up in a court of law never mind science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitesolid2 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Alien stop being stupid!!!!!!! loads a oil!!!! -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 i'm being stupid? i'm only asking that you prove your claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitesolid2 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 This is the challange of the decade! Just hope someone says YO! Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedi'm being stupid? i'm only asking that you prove your claims. Alien please understand this is the 3rd time ive done this, im tired!!! please tell me where my text is wrong!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 you haven't shown ANY calculations that support what you claim. you consistently ignore people when they attempt to correct your misconceptions and if asked for proof you claim that the person asking for proof is being stupid. support your claims or bog off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitesolid2 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 1 tank = 10,000 litres lifted 300+ miles!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 still not seeing any maths that shows this method is better than current pumping methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitesolid2 Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Yo! tally: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 whit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooeypoo Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Alien stop being stupid!!!!!!! loads a oil!!!! This is unacceptable behavior. It's one thing debating your theories (again), it's quite another being rude to others. Watch the attitude, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 And debating these theories again, AFTER THE PREVIOUS THREADS WERE LOCKED, is unacceptable. You were warned last time not to do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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