On 6/28/2025 at 8:18 PM, Spryzen said:

I know I am probably wrong but I want to share it in speculation thread. Basically I have heard and read about gravitons quantum particles which cause gravity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton

This concept of graviton is now theoretical.

But I wonder if gravitons are real then maybe they are causing bend in space time curvature by energy of these quantum particles and in this way relativity and quantum can maybe combine.

I know I am wrong but still I want to learn more that's why I posted

I am working on it.As much as i have completed work it combines them in real.My first theory the V1 is foundation with alot of mistakes to explain and gaps,but V2 is more advanced and complete then before.I am doing this with limited time and no formal training as i am around 15yr old.

13 hours ago, MigL said:

IF gravitons exist, they have an energy density and momentum, both of which gravitate, or bend/curve space-time.
These quantum particles are the requirement of quantum field theories, such as QED and QCD.
Unless we have a quantum field theory of gravity, we don't have gravitons.

You're completely right that gravitons can't be assumed without a proper field-theoretic foundation — in QED and QCD, particles like photons and gluons arise only after the field is defined and quantized.

In my updated framework (GraviGenesis V2), I’ve worked to meet that standard. I don’t assume gravitons — I derive them from a quantized process that begins with photon collapse at Planck-scales. This leads to localized spin-2 excitations, which I define as gravitons.

The model includes:

• A Planck-threshold condition for graviton formation

• A quantized gravitational energy field described through energy density, redshift, and curvature

• A Lagrangian formulation for a massless spin-2 field

• And a reinterpretation of the Einstein field source using a sum over localized graviton energy densities, instead of a smooth classical tensor

This is just a glimpse of the larger framework — there will be more additions, and likely revisions too. As joigus once said, "The most useful tool for a theoretical physicist is actually the wastepaper basket." I fully agree — and I’m ready to refine whatever doesn’t hold up.

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